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- Thread starter jay77
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Upgrade the 250? to a different detector? Or upgrade the 250?
Ground balancing.....
GROUND BALANCE - A condition or mode of operation in which the detector is adjusted to optimally reduce the interference that ground mineralization has on metal targets.
What is Ground Balancing?
The amount of minerals in the soil varies from location to location. Sometimes the composition of minerals change within a small amount of area. Other locations, the mineral composition in the soil will be fairly consistent over a large area. The type of minerals contained in the soil will also vary according to location. For instance, one of the more common minerals present in soil is iron, and some areas of the country have high concentrations present.
Without some method of "ground balancing", the metal detector would be detecting all the minerals present in the soil, therefore not seeing through them, an thus, small or deeper targets would not override the signals produced by the minerals. In extremely mineralized soil, the metal detector would hardly be able to detect a target laying on the surface of the soil.
Ground balancing the detector is simply, the term used to describe the function of adjusting the metal detector to ignore the minerals in the soil so that they are not detected by the metal detector.
Various manufactures utilize different ground balancing options offered on their models such as:
Preset Ground Balancing
Auto Ground Balancing
Manual Ground Balancing
Combination of any preset and manual ground balancing
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Ground balancing.....
GROUND BALANCE - A condition or mode of operation in which the detector is adjusted to optimally reduce the interference that ground mineralization has on metal targets.
What is Ground Balancing?
The amount of minerals in the soil varies from location to location. Sometimes the composition of minerals change within a small amount of area. Other locations, the mineral composition in the soil will be fairly consistent over a large area. The type of minerals contained in the soil will also vary according to location. For instance, one of the more common minerals present in soil is iron, and some areas of the country have high concentrations present.
Without some method of "ground balancing", the metal detector would be detecting all the minerals present in the soil, therefore not seeing through them, an thus, small or deeper targets would not override the signals produced by the minerals. In extremely mineralized soil, the metal detector would hardly be able to detect a target laying on the surface of the soil.
Ground balancing the detector is simply, the term used to describe the function of adjusting the metal detector to ignore the minerals in the soil so that they are not detected by the metal detector.
Various manufactures utilize different ground balancing options offered on their models such as:
Preset Ground Balancing
Auto Ground Balancing
Manual Ground Balancing
Combination of any preset and manual ground balancing
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John 'n' W.Va
Active member
jay77 said:
It is called, "The grass is greener on the other side of the fence."
The Ace is no slouch. You need to learn it well. Veteran detectorist have gone to the Ace as their #1 detector. Nothing against you, I don't even know you, but the Ace is better equipped at finding things than you are at using it. Learn it well and grow in knowledge in the areas of metal detecting. You will gravitate toward a type of detecting that you like. You than will have a better idea of the type of detector you need. Other wise you may waste a lot of money and get frustrated with detecting.
There are some exceptions if you want to salt water detect. I would mot suggest the Ace.
Again, I have shown this for others. You want coins? Over 200 wheat's in one year. All with my Ace.
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Old coins, 1700 and lots of 1800's.
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Rings and a lot more not in pic.
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Gold, white or yellow.
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Civil war.
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Relics. !850's button and much more.
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The Ace 250 has a factory set GB (ground balance). My first guess is that your running in the all metal mode with high sensitivity? I believe when you learn the Ace you need to set it in coin mode. Then set you sensitivity at 4 bars. Dig only solid repeatable beeps right now. Keep your coil very flat and smooth over the ground. About 1.5 seconds per full sweep. Do not lift your coil at the end of your sweeps and/or jerk it when you change directions.
I used a Bounty Hunter Lone Star for the last year and a half, talk about having to learn a machine... I just bought the ACE 250, and I have found it to bury the BH(no pun intended). I have to learn this detector now, but I know you can't just buy one and it works perfectly within the first 10 minutes. You have to learn the machine like Khouse and John say. No machine works like a magic wand as soon as you turn it on. I would not change out the 250 for something that costs more... Just because a detector costs more does not mean it will be any different from what you have now. It's experience. I found a lot with the BH, I just decided to move up to something better, but I now have to learn this ones new traits. I am psyched to get out and use this 250!!!!
Uncle Willy
New member
Let's interject a little logic into this situation. You haven't even had time to learn how to use it. You don't know what ground balancing is. What do you think you will gain by upgrading to another detector you won't understand or know how to use.
Bill
Bill
I'll bet your discouraged with the detector saying it's a nickel only to dig a tab etc? Right? You have to look at the target ID as a conductivity scale. If your nickel segment lights up simply think there's a metal object with the same conductivity as a nickel under my coil. Not a nickel itself. After you understand that you WILL be digging trash - then you'll be OK. You will be very disappointed if you lay down $1000 on a detector because you still will be digging trash. Get to know you machine and you can eventually leave a lot of trash in the ground. Remember to run your sensitivity at 4 bars and coin mode. Then later you can start opening up your machine.
mascard1
Well-known member
If you get a explorer, you will be sleeping with two ice bags!!!!!!!.......but once you learn it watch out!!!!!!!!!.......The 250 is a sweet little machine, I have one...I just can't stand the BONG...gives me a headache....the explorer se plays me a song a like!!!!!......Man if you think you are hooked now just wait....your a goner...take it easy!!!!!
Uncle Willy
New member
Yeah he'll be using two ice bags. 
Bill
Bill
Uncle Willy
New member
Discrimination is basically the same on any model or any brand. They don't make different discrimination on different detectors. It's a given regardless of what detector you use. When using all metal and ground balancing there is no discrimination. There's nothing magic about it. It's pretty simple. Detectors can't see into the ground anymore than you can and identify a target. They ID by conductivity of the target then make a wild guess as to what it might be. They give a probable ID, not exact. It's like sticking your arm down in a 50 gallon barrel full of water and goldfish and trying to feel around and find the one black goldfish out of all the gold ones. Detectors are a tool, not a magic wand.
Bill
Bill