Question to all you Hard Core CZ Users

[gcollins]

I have been hunting with some people that use CZ7's, and Coinstrike's, they wouldn't hunt with anything else, they love there CZ's, so I have been looking at and dreaming about the CZ3D, what do you guys think of the CZ3D, is it close to the older CZ's? My only turn off about the older CZ's are they are so heavy, I know you can hip mount those, and I might go that route. I would be gratefull to here from you guys and gals.
Thanks Greg

 

[therover]

Greg,

I haven't used a 3D but supposedly it is geared for older sites to get the silver. I got a CZ6a when they first came out, and after finally learning how to control it's iron loving ( man did I dig deep nails thinking they were silver coins) I still hunt with it and feel it's one of the best once you get to know it. Weatherproof, salt mode and goes really deep. Are you looking to get a new one cuz I know there are used Cz's out there and you can get them at a pretty good price.

The main thing is what will you primarily be hunting for. If its mostly older coins at older sites, then I would think the 3D would be good. If you want to hunt relics and the salt beaches I would suggest the CZ since it has dual frequency. There may be some new ones out there ( Mr. Bill at Surfscanners indicated he has some). Not sure how well the Coinstrike does on the beaches but it's supposed to be great in trash and high mineralzation.

So that brings us back to the question...whatcha hunting for ?

JC

 

[gcollins]

Jc,
I like to hunt for older coins, clad hunting just doesn't float my boat! But there are so many people hunting coins, I am looking in to relic hunting, bad thing is where i live there was alot of c.w. action, I can drive a 100 miles and find some area's to hunt, so you could say, I mainly hunt old sites, with lots of trash. What do you think? I most likely will have to buy used, I bought my Deleon new, and now think that was a mistake?
Thanks Greg

 

[mtdoramike]

You will realize that right after you turn it on and start using it. But here is my Favorite Fishers or CZ's.

CZ70 is number 1, CZ5 is number 2. Now as far as the CZ3d, it is a very capable machine depending on what type of sites you like to hunt. It's primarily geared for older sites like pre-1950 sites, but you can also hunt modern sites if you use the salt mode.

I have used all the CZ's plus the Coinstrike at the beach and all of them work fantastic on the beach. The Coinstrike is one of my favorite machines as well, but it's not really a turn on and go machine, it has a good learning curve to it. It took me about 40-50 hours before I really understood what it was telling me. It took probably a good 25 hours or so before I lost the urge to wrap it around a tree.

Bottom lineis, you can't go wrong with any CZ you buy.

 

[WVAdirtdigger]

G,
I have a 3D a have had very good luck with it. I too, hunt for old coins. I'm not much of a clad hunter. I hunt old homes and homesites. I try to find ones that are at least pre-1900. I have done well (IMHO) with the 3D. I believe that it would be a capable relic hunter. Just dig all above iron.

I do agree with Mike that any CZ would be a good choice. They are powerful and easy to learn. It just takes a little practice to avoid the nails but I rarely dig a nail nowadays. I have a set of tips from the forums that I have collected on the 3D. You can also view them at OldeTymer's site. thetreasureleague.com

 

[mtdoramike]

2 years ago, I banked over $350.00 in clad and last year, I banked over $400.00. This year from January until now, I have banked close to $150.00. Now that's a lot of batteries + I have bought extra coils, pinpointers, inline probes & a Tumbler with the clad.

 

[Dan-Pa.]

So I guess that would make me a hardcore user and used every model CZ ever made...Only one presently being manufactured(CZ3D) so probably have to buy used for other models..I guess we could debate but I feel the CZ6A was the best of the lot once you get to learn not to dig those deep rusty nails....However any CZ is a deep seeking user friendly machine..Having said the above many seem to do well with the CZ3D, but myself prefer one of the older CZ's as I didn't like the new meter parameters in enhanced mode and using in regular mode its locked in salt mode.
Personally if hunting parks would elect for a digital unit as its notching is superior and not linear like the analog units. For hunting old silver would elect for a analog as only intersted in coins all anyway.
As far as the CZ3D if you hunt both real old and newer spots the two modes may to your liking. Personally to me it seemed like dig more to get more in old spots and do remember the regular mode is locked in salt mode which doesn't make it as potent rel depth and sens. to gold jewelry.
In addendum if standing next to a field with deep silver with any CZ model in my hands I would feel comfortable.
Remember this is in my neck of the woods and your area or personal preferences may differ.

 

[therover]

Greg,

I agree with Mike in his assesment of what detectors to pick in that priority. CZ, Coinstrike, 3D if you are going to hunt some relics and get into the trash. CZ's are simple to use, and since I have never used a Coinstrike ( but I really would like to get a used one to try out) it seems if you put the time in and not get discouraged it's one fine detector. Some guys use the Coinstrike as their numebr one relic machine.

One good thing with a Fisher ( and your Deleon) is if you buy new, you do have the lifetime warranty. Fisher and Tesoro get high marks in that category.

As I detect more with my CZ and X5, I am appreciating the analog/knob functionality more and more, as I can glance down and know exactly what settings my detector is using and make any subtle adjustment in 1/2 second. When I go from my DFX ( which is a great machine once it's set up correctly) back to my CZ or X5, it just seems a heck of alot easier.

Point is, I think the Coinstike is in the middle of the road there in terms of easy of adjustablility. The menu/screen kinda looks like knobs and it's easier to adjust then lets say a DFX or Explorer II, but the CZ's ( espcially the older ones like 5 and 6a) adjust with 2-3 knobs. And most of the time, once the volume is set, that never changes, and once you set up ground balance and sensitiviy, the only thing you really mess with is the discrim.

I always hunt with all the tones unless the bits of iron drive me nuts, then I switch to only hearing the 2 tones on my 6a. I think the CZ70 has the 4 tones. Also, you can switch into all metal in a heart beat and get a wide scan deep seeking detector to hunt the C.W. sites to find where the camp metal is and then swtich back to discrim and slow down.

Guess I am pointing you toward a CZ. Try to get a used one and learn it. You will not be dissapointed as long as you take your time. At first you will probably dig up lots of deeper iron, but do a search on Fisher CZ and I believe there is a Mikes Tips CZ page that has lots of good info on how to learn what iron 'feels like' on a CZ ( like when pin pointing... which is another thing I love about the CZ..the VCO pin point)

Good luck in whatever you end up with....just USE IT for a while and do not get discouraged.

JC

 

[therover]

Greg...here is link to a site with CZ tips. It's from an older site but you can get an idea as to how the older CZ's work and how hunters use them

http://66.51.97.78/coinist/cztipspage2.html

 

[gcollins]

I want to thank all of you folks for the replies and the links, i meant no offense to clad hunters, in my area, very small and not much things that go on, and with little traffic, there is not the chance to find much clad, yes you can hunt the local parks and school yards and if you did this every place every week, you might get $5.00 in clad for your weeks work, those of you that live in area's that have a lot of people doing things you have a better chance, where I don't! Back to the CZ's, I don't know when, but I have made up my mind that I will probably buy a CZ.
Thanks a bunch
Greg

 

[BJ in Okla.]

I own a CZ 3D and have owned other CZ's. I hunt with other people that also use CZ's. If you get get into a small area, its not a good idea to have to many CZ's in a small area. They do get to talking and someone posted last year that you can not be any closer than 75' with a CZ, if you are, you are loosing depth. I keep another brand for those time's....HH...BJ

 

[erikk]

Well, I took my cz7A pro for a walt today to an old school that has been pounded. By me in the 80's with a bounty hunter along with many friends and just recently with my DFX and a buddy with a spectrum (twice) Last time he found a merc & some wheats at about 4-5 inches as tsome of the area had been stripped of about 5 inches of topsoil, I just found some wheats at about the same depthI was using deep silver program with some mods.
Well today I went back and spent about an hour notching out everything but the good coins. I dug up 2 mercs & 3 wheats. One merc was about 12 inches.After I dug 3 inches I hit a 4 inch root and the merc was several inches under that I had to tunnel andf get it with my vibra probe.
Now, the DFX is a great machine but when I want to get really serious on old coins that I know are deep out comes the cz7a pro