Question on CZ-3D and buffalo nickels

[Scott_B]

I just bought a used CZ-3D and I was doing an air test on a 1919 Buffalo nickel. In the salt mode it gave a high tone and in Enhanced mode it gave a mid tone. I thought that it should give a high tone on a Buffalo nickel in Enhanced mode. It was a nickel that I got from a club hunt. I don't think it was ever buried. Is that why it is giving a mid tone in Enhanced mode. A newer nickel will give a high tone in Enhanced. I hope that everything is working as it should be.

What kind of tone do any of you guys get on a buffalo nickel in Enhanced mode in an air test. I would be curious to know. Thanks

 

[Frank in NH]

Scott I just tried it in an air test. The buffalo in the salt mode jump between foil and high tone. In the enenched mode it came in high tone all the time like it should. Don't no what to say mybe someone else can help you. Frank

 

[ColonialEraHunter]

Hey Scott,

I just air tested a dug buffalo nickel and in enhanced mode I get a high tone and it reads 5 cents on the meter, in salt mode I get a mid tone and it reads foil on the meter. I can remember one of the first hits I got on my 3D was a V nickel which read high tone nickel. It is a great machine. Is your Nickel very worn which might be giving a strange reading??

Rich
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[Freduscf]

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[Mark in NC]

The 3D's strong point with nickels seems to be the old cruddy ones. I don't know what condition the buffalo is that you're testing, but if it's a shiny undug one, it will most likely hit like a newer nickel in enhanced (ie: tab most of the time). I've dug V's and buffalos with it that ID'ed great, but once out of the ground, and with other machines, they didn't fall into the usual "Nickel notch"

HH'n

Mark in NC

 

[Scott_B]

I would say that it is fairly worn. Although I don't believe that it has ever been in the ground. I will try to get a picture of it up as soon as I can so you can see the condition it is in. I thought that it was supposed to ID as a high tone, so I got a little worried. But from what I am hearing, if it was in the ground and had corrosion on it, then it would be a high tone. Is this right? Thanks.

 

[Mark in NC]

According to NASA-Tom, there's a certain percentage of undug nickels that will ID as tab in enhanced mode. Something happens to their conductivity when they've been in the ground a while that seems to lower them on the scale. I've even seen them change a lot even when they come out of the hole... taking the soil matrix out of the equation. pretty interesting stuff.

HH'n

Mark in NC

 

[Scott_B]

Here is a picture of the nickel that I am talking about. It has no corrosion on it. I guess that if it had been the ground then it might give a high tone.

 

[Frank in NH]

In salt mode i get a foil to nickle bounce and mine was not dug.

 

[Mark in NC]

OldeTymer has a site where WVAdirtdigger has accumulated CZ3D tips. Here's an excerpt from NASA-Tom that would relate to your post:

Hey Andrew,

Hello from Florida! Just curious about your buffalo nickel that reads "round pull-tab" in your test-garden. Was this buffalo nickel a shiny, non-corroded (never been in dirt) buffalo,,,,,,,,,, or was it a black/brown dug/corroded nickel that you found in the dirt previously? This makes a BIG difference on how the 3D will respond. Furthermore, old nickels that have been in the ground and have accrued a 50 year (or greater) halo around them is also crucial for the CZ-3D to perform it's designed engineering parameter magic!

Happy Intelligent Hunting,

Thomas J. Dankowski

e-mail #2

Perfect! This answers all !!! The 3D does NOT like shiny new (never seen dirt) nickels! A dug (somewhat corroded) nickel is what it is designed for. HIT THE DIRT!!!! Think you will be pleasantly surprised. It is designed for real dirt coins,,,,, NOT shiny (non-corroded) coins. And NOT test-garden stuff!

It may have been my oversight to NOT have covered this topic in any of the FISHER INTELLIGENCE articles. Apologies. The intent of all this "pre-release" info was to allow folks to be as completely versed as possible with the 3D BEFORE they received one,,,,, so they could just simply skip reading the operators manual, turn the unit on and go hunting the moment it arrived.

COMPLETELY out of time!

H.I.H.
Thomas J. Dankowski

 

[OldeTymer]

Here are Dave WVAdirtdigger's CZ-3D hints & tips on my non-sponsored Treasure League site:

http://www.thetreasureleague.com/CZ3D_Tips.htm

Enjoy. He has some great tips for the 3D. While you're there, feel free to browse all the articles by Tom Dankowski, and others. Hope you find something of value.

Good hunting,
OldeTymer

 

[Mark in NC]

If I had realized I plagiarized from your site, I would have given you credit!

hh'n

Mark in NC

 

[Scott_B]

If you get a high tone all the time in Enhanced, why would I get a mid tone in Enhanced. I just want to be sure that my 3D is working like it should.

Now that I have read a little more what Tom wrote I understand better. But I still want to know why I am getting a mid tone in Enhanced mode and you are getting a high tone on a never been in dirt nickel. In salt mode I get a high tone and others get a mid tone. I just want to know why? And if my machine is functioning correctly?

 

[OldeTymer]

Hey Mark,

I think you mentioned it was my site in your first line. I didn't think anything wrong was done. I was just posting a direct link to Dave WVAdirtdigger's 3D hints & tips for others. No harm done. It's there for anyone that wants to read it. That's why I have the site.

Good hunting,
OldeTymer

 

[Frank in NH]

n/t

 

[Bill Ladd]

Such as the "high tone" on nickels feature & the 4 tones option...
Bill