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question for those who have had problems with tornado coil cable covers

Neil

Neil

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I bought a 8" tornado coil from someone and when I got it the cable cover was falling apart. The gentleman was great about it, reimbursed me for the coil and then told me to keep the coil too. Its useless to me since I mostly hunt near water.
My question is has anyone had this happen and if so what size tornado coil was it? When I spoke to minelab about it they said they have seen it happen to the 10" tornados but not the smaller 8" ones.
Im thinking it just might be the way the coil was treated? Ive got the stock 10" from my Elite and it has no issues at all. Im wondering if there is something to treat the cable to keep it flexible and not fall apart in the future.
 
Neil,I heard some bad cords were purchased by Minelab that had outer cover quality issues.I have ran into a few of these,and they just keep splitting no matter how many repairs made.I have used some of these coils for land hunting with no performance problems.These coils do have a bad resale value and would be useless in water. HH Ron
 
Neil, I have a box full (9) of the 10 inch that are bad, most were bad coil wire covers...No 800's

did you get the one off ebay for 135 resently...if so I was watching that also..
 
Ron your right the cable cover is shot. Im gonna just take a pic and put it up for like $20 to cover shipping, cant just throw it away. Still good for land hunting.

Joe I bought this about two months ago from the findmall classifieds. Thankfullly the guy I got it from is a stand up guy.
What can I do to keep my 10"coil cable from shrdding? Its fine now, still flexible.

Thanks
Neil
 
I'm not sure what the normal is for others hunters but I use silicon spray and silicon grease on mine after they dry from a wash down....I'm in Connecticut right now and have a large tube of Dow111 that a keep in the truck, I just grease up my hand and cover the cable when changing coils...on my regular excal I use the McNett divers, silicon spray....I really like unwinding the cable and doing this about once a month when hunting season is here....so far, knock on wood, my two older coils have had no issues for about 7 years that I have had them...and the detectors are the blues, guessing the age around 2004 to 6..

Let me know if your interested in selling that coil for 20.oo I can Paypal or MO when I return on Monday the 5th...
 
As Joe knows i recently purchased a NEW Xcal blue that had been stored and NEVER used in the water. It started cracking the FIRST time in the water. I used EZ epoxy tape on it and so far havent had a problem ... IN the water. the casing break is near the coil like most. You can get the tap at any hardware store. Id put it up for sale with a starting price of .99 and see where it goes.... its still a useful coil. Im assuming its an Xcal coil? These cables are STIFF and hard and you cant straighten them out from their original coiled position. I believe mine was a 2009 model Xcal. Mine looked like the movement in the water just made it explode. Im going to change my profile to it can break i can dew it....lol.

Dew
 
dewcon4414 said:
As Joe knows i recently purchased a NEW Xcal blue that had been stored and NEVER used in the water. It started cracking the FIRST time in the water. I used EZ epoxy tape on it and so far havent had a problem ... IN the water. the casing break is near the coil like most. You can get the tap at any hardware store. Id put it up for sale with a starting price of .99 and see where it goes.... its still a useful coil. Im assuming its an Xcal coil? These cables are STIFF and hard and you cant straighten them out from their original coiled position. I believe mine was a 2009 model Xcal. Mine looked like the movement in the water just made it explode. Im going to change my profile to it can break i can dew it....lol.



Dew
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Dew its not from an excel, the guy said he bought it as an extra coil (bought it new) when he got his GT. This cable is falling apart, like plastic that has been left out in the sun and gets brittle. Someone on the forum contacted me and I sold it to them. Ive still got another 8" Tornado and the 10" one also so Im looking to prolong the life of those.
 
OldBeechnut said:
I'm not sure what the normal is for others hunters but I use silicon spray and silicon grease on mine after they dry from a wash down....I'm in Connecticut right now and have a large tube of Dow111 that a keep in the truck, I just grease up my hand and cover the cable when changing coils...on my regular excal I use the McNett divers, silicon spray....I really like unwinding the cable and doing this about once a month when hunting season is here....so far, knock on wood, my two older coils have had no issues for about 7 years that I have had them...and the detectors are the blues, guessing the age around 2004 to 6..

Let me know if your interested in selling that coil for 20.oo I can Paypal or MO when I return on Monday the 5th...
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Joe thanks for the tip on the silicon, I will look into that. I don't think theres any problem with the older BBS coils which are what were on the blue excels. It seems its only the Tornado coils. Whats crazy is I would buy a coinsearch coil right now with the grey cable and be confident of not having a problem with the cable. They should have kept with those grey cables they originally used. I would like to find one of the early 8" BBS coils that came with the grey cable. They switched over to the black ones a year or two afterwards and then switched again when they went to the tornado coils.
I already sold the coil to Mel but you might contact him as he might be interested in one or more of your 10" coils.
 
They just used some STIFF casing.... like you said is brittle like plastic. May not be Xcal, but i bet its the same timeframe. The three i now have for the Sov are as limber as a string.... thats what u r looking for.

Dew
 
Neil,there are some of these fetching decent prices,which they are still good for land hunting.HH Ron
 
Bob.... id like to see how you did that. Ive seen Mel Parkers fix, but he did away with the connector. Thats sweet. How did you manage to reuse the connector.... did yoiu pull the old one out of the coil then expoxy it back once you replaced the cable? NICE.... fix. Joe... we need to know how he did this... thats real clean.

Dew
 
Hi Dew,

Fairly simple procedure. I have no other pics so I'll try to explain. I cut the cable above the connector and then cut the connector from the coil housing carefully without harming the short piece of cable left inside of it. Then I cut the 4 wires very short and spread them out into a cross, flat against the coil housing to make sure none would touch each other. Did the same thing with the replacement cable and carefully soldered them up. Tested the coil at this point to make sure all was OK. Next I slid a new connector down till it was touching the soldered cable. I did not have a small tube to cover the connector and cable so I formed one from a scrap piece of plastic using a heat gun and formed it around a piece of pipe. Once I had the size I wanted I used some MEK to attach it to the coil housing and sealing the bottom against the housing. ( Mek is a industrial cleaner or thinner for epoxy, it dissolves some plastics or can be used as a adhesive if done carefully. I use a slurry mix of plastic and MEK in a squirt bottle. My wifes hair dye bottles work great for that. ) Once it's dried I filled up the tube with epoxy sealing everything. Note....I used a connector because I had some around but it's not neccessary. Mel's system is just as good. The original Minelab horseshoe coil had no connector. It sounds like a lot but it goes along pretty well just take your time.

Bob
 
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?21,1847622,1847689#msg-1847689
 
This is what I did to repair one the other day.
 
Wheres the bat wings coming off the back?:laugh:

Looks good, nice job you did there.
 
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