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Question for Tejan users

kaolinwasher

kaolinwasher

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I noted the tehon has two all metal modes, one fast the other slow - Question is the one deeper in the slow all metal . and how deep can it hit a dime in the all metal slow I know the F-70 has an SL mode and is very deep just wondering about the Tjn thanks Gunnar
 
I sure wish a few guys would chime in on this question Gunnar. Ive asked about the Tejon's ability to find deep-ish silver too, and I didnt get too many responses either. I think most guys are using them as relic hounds so dont have much experience finding silver coins?

The WV brothers have found some silver with theirs, maybe they'll have some input here...
 
Hi guys. Well I just went outside to test my tejon and It seems that in the slow all metal mode I got at least a couple more inches of depth compared to fast. I didn't have a tape measure with me but my dime is barried at 6 inches and I was still picking it up about 5 or 6 inches with coil raised so I would say in the 11 to 12 inch range. We have bad ground in Washington and I was using the 10x12 dd coil. Are you thinking about buying one?
 
I own a Tejon, but I wouldn't by no means call me a "Tejon Master" so, I will say that I've not found any difference in depth. Actually the two modes have primarily two different functions,

One is a all-metal search mode,
The other is a Pinpoint mode that is activated by a toggle mounted under the control housing (pull to pinpoint all-metal mode)

I can't help you much with the F70 comparison, but if it don't have the Boost Mode, I'm guessing that in the all-metal search mode the Tejon would be pretty darn close. Now, my older brother had a F75 so he may be able to help you out with the other part of your question. He may be able to chime in later on this evening.

Hope this helps.

Mark
 
see I think some don't know what the detector can do , I heard it has a slow all metal and I don't think it was the pinpoint mode ya I was thinking about getting one 10 to 12" on a dime is very good thanks I may sell my bliss tool when it gets back from repairing, I can't sit thru another 4 month wait for repair.
 
First, don't own a Tejon...........Never have.

With 2 disc.....controlled by the trigger switch...........my understanding is if one of the disc is adjusted to discriminate more than the other (to weed out some targets) it will lose depth.........the more discrimination = less depth (& less sharp solid hits (which might be interpided as change of sweep speed)).

So I doubt there is a fast & slow sweep discrimination knob.............It depends on your discrimination settings for each knob. Is my understanding.

HaRM
 
It has two discrimination controls yes! but they do not work at the same time, nor are the really hooked to one another. They can be set independently from each other, usually disc one is considered as primary and disc two secondary and setup this way the disc #1 may be set to a lower point then disc 2 may be set to some higher point. Lets say your hunting for coins (US coins) you might set disc #1 to the edge of nickels dropping out, then set disc #2 to just above screw caps, things below nickels are knocked out and you get a pretty good hit that's above the scratchy nickel sound, then you push the finger toggle forward to switch to disc #2 and the target is still solid, that tells you that the target is in the upper range for the clad, copper, or silver coins, but if you toggle to disc # 2 and the target goes silent then its not a coin signal.

Now, as for control settings of all metal!
There is ONLY one control (knob) that selects ALL-Metal and that is the discrimination controls! both disc # 1 and disc # 2 has the ALL-Metal option, but this isn't two different ALL-Metal modes, its the same mode.

The only other ALL-Metal mode is selectable by the finger toggle below the control housing!, this is referred to as the "Pinpoint All-Metal" mode and can only be activated my the momentary pull of the finger toggle, so to search in this mode the finger toggle would have to be held in place!

And, yes! at max discrimination some depth is lost, but in normal (average) soil its not a LOT!, but in hunting coins there isn't much need to hunt above screw caps, but if your thinking you can hunt at MAX disc and it hard on a silver dime @ 10 or more inches its just not going to happen. Few even thousand dollar detectors really can. The true working depth of MOST very, Very! good detectors in average soil is 10" or less (and 10" REAL inches is the MAX) now larger stuff that relic hunters may dig up could be deeper.

All-Metal Search, and
All-Metal Pinpoint

A high setting of one discrimination control doesn't effect the other, the yes, if disc two is set to max and you toggle to it, there may be of depth difference of the disc, but when you toggle back to disc one you would just jump back to the lower setting and the depth gain of that control.

And No! there is no controls or settings for sweep speed.
Mark
 
Okay, from the manual, below is a picture of the front of the control housing showing ALL knobs and controls on the front panel.

Mark
 
Now the only other control is actually a toggle switch mounted on the bottom side of the control housing, this switch doesn't lock into position, its a three position and it returns to center (normal position) when released. From the normal position (center) if you toggle it (finger behind it and push) forward it toggles to the Disc # 2 function (or what is called ALT DISC LEVEL)

If you pull it to the rear its selects the All-Metal Pinpoint function.

See photo below.
In the photo the operator has selected the "ALT DISC LEVEL" (commonly called disc #2)

Mark
 
If I understand the original question, you want to know if the Tejon all metal in pinpoint mode is deeper than standard all metal? I just tested in my coin garden and I would have to say no. I didn't notice any difference.

Dan
 
[size=large]O,K from the Tesoro Catalog page 11[/size] now if you look at the picture it says clearly Operating MODE ( SLOW AUTO TUNE ALL METAL ) AND (FAST AUTO TUNE ALL METAL ) so one is slower and hence should be deeper , I am talking about the all metal not the disc modes
 
I believe it refers to normal operating mode which is fast retune speed.
If I remember right Keith Southern said it was too fast.
Slow retune was pinpoint mode like most VLF machines these days.
Again, if I remember correctly Keith had a Tejon rigged up the toggle so it remained fixed in pinpoint mode
and hunted using that slower retune speed.

So the catalog might be a bit confusing.
 
keith is a guy who really knows how to get the most out of his machines, thanks for clearing that up sven , and the same goes for you you really are good at getting the best performance out of a machine and even making it better . thats cool not many can think for themselves anymore its group think
 
Sven said:
I believe it refers to normal operating mode which is fast retune speed.
If I remember right Keith Southern said it was too fast.
Slow retune was pinpoint mode like most VLF machines these days.
Again, if I remember correctly Keith had a Tejon rigged up the toggle so it remained fixed in pinpoint mode
and hunted using that slower retune speed.

So the catalog might be a bit confusing.
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My other VLF machines (not Tesoro's) pinpoint mode is All-Metal "No Motion" the Tejon's All-Metal pinpoint mode is VERY slow sweep but still requires some motion.

Pinpoint Mode! is an operation mode, but its not normally thought of as a search mode.
The All-Metal mode that is selectable at the Discrimination controls is a All-Metal search mode.

In the All-Metal search mode the target seems larger under the coil, once the target as been located the Pinpoint mode can be toggle to and the target gets a little tighter crisp response. I always hunt in Disc mode and it's very rare that I ever have to switch to either the All-Metal modes, the Tejon will pinpoint VERY well in disc mode, its actually kind of amazing how you can pinpoint in the disc mode.

Mark
 
The below is from the Tejon manual and covers both the All-Metal modes and how to activate them.

From The Tejon Manual said:
Your Tej
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mark thanks for that read out of the manuel , looks like the T would be a good relic machine, and go deep
 
kaolinwasher said:
mark thanks for that read out of the manuel , looks like the T would be a good relic machine, and go deep
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Your more than welcome!

I don't really relic hunt myself, I got the Tejon with the idea of gold jewelry and coins that show themselves along the way. The wife broke her leg and it looks like my detecting is over for this year, I have to set with her and also do all the housework and still work a job.

Mark
 
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