Question for CXIII users

[Ron Y]

Hello All,

I've got a CXIII,I've had since mid '90's and was wondering if I can still get a longer bottom shaft.It didn't bother me as much then,but 10+ years will do that to a tall old guy.

First time poster, really enjoy the site.

Thanks Much
Ron

 

[Uncle Willy]

Contact Mary Penson at maryp@garrett.com and shewill fill you in.

Bill

 

[John-Edmonton]

"The lower rod on the machine acts like the end of a leaver, with the fulcrum being the elbow. The longer the rod is and the further your hand is from your body, the greater the amount of force (leverage) it exerts on your elbow and shoulder. So, shorten your rod so your swings are not too wide, and maintain a good posture standing straight. This will also keep stress off your lower back and shoulders, two typical weak spots on our body. Now keep your arm tucked in as close to your body, with your biceps and triceps against your rib cage, and turn at the hips slightly with your swings. I tried this method with the GTI 2500, and really had no issues with weight after several hours.

And....don't swing too fast. This can cause injuries to your muscles. Relax, the coins are weighting for you, not the other way around "

I brainstormed with some of our physiotherapists at work. It should help.


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[Uncle Willy]

Yeah it makes my ribs hurt.

Bill

 

[Neil in West Jersey]

Ron:

You may consider going with a newer Garrett, such as the Ace 250. These new units weigh much less than the older machines. You may have to sacrifice some features such as "non-motion all metal mode", but I am seeing tremendous results on the forums with the Ace units.You can still get over $300 for a CXIII in good condition on ebay, enough to cover the cost of an Ace 250.

I still like the CXIII, dispite it's weight. I don't have the "treasure hound" technology that some newer CXIII units have, but I still get all the depth I need.

Just a thought.

 

[Ron Y]

Thank you one and all,

good stuff there John-E,I will try that technique,the help is much appreciated.
Seems I've been rode hard and put away wet a little too often 'back in the day'.

Camman,
I will be picking up a 250 real soon from a dealer near me.
It will be a back up for my CXIII,I can see a lot of places where a 250 will be just right.But my old CXIII is like a family member that's always there for you.I just got the Treasure Hound Depth Multiplier for her not long ago.I was about to send her in for a tune-up and use the 250 in her absence.

Uncle Willy,
Thanks for the referral, I will drop a line to her tonight.
Seems I always bend over slightly,everything I buy
doesn't quite fit. Being 6'7, the same with weed wackers, mowers etc.

It wasn't quite as bad when I was 40 or even 50, but it seems gravity is gonna win this one eventually.Hey maybe one day I won't need a bottom stem at all.

Thanks again Guys

Ron

 

[DavHut]

So, shorten your rod so your swings are not too wide, and maintain a good posture standing straight. This will also keep stress off your lower back and shoulders, two typical weak spots on our body. Now keep your arm tucked in as close to your body, with your biceps and triceps against your rib cage, and turn at the hips slightly with your swings.

John gives good advice here, to no surprise, considering his occupation. The only thing I'd add is that you should ensure you wear non-metallic shoes when you follow this practice.

"Huh? Why that?" you ask. By doing as John suggests, the coil will now be closer to the vertical pivot point of the swing (your upright body) and thus closer to your FEET. Metal eyelets, steel shanks or toes and such will set off the detector if you arent careful.

I wouldn't chuck the CXIII in favor of something else just yet, either. The arm cuff was always a needed thing to me, as the CX series is clunky, IMHO. Hwever, it is a hot detector and found some real goodies for me when I had one (CXII).

Another option is to adopt a different search strategy, and comes again from our good friend John. Get that Ace 250 and the large coil - plus a SNIPER coil for the CXIII. Now, use the Ace as your intitial search tool and the CXIII as your "bullseye shooter."

This would lighten your load for longer searches and put the CXIII back in the hunt when it really matters.

 

[Ron Y]

I like the way you think David, best of both worlds.

I haven't swung the 250 yet,but it's supposed to be well balanced and max length is 51'.Which is considerably longer than the CXIII @ around 44'

Thanks for the good input,
Ron

 

[DavHut]

...of the world it is in. One capable machine, it should be kept to use, as you intend. Whatever you do, keep em beeping until you keel over, buddy!

 

[Uncle Willy]

Yeah 79 inches high does put one at a disadvantage since everything is built for shorter folks. And age doesn't help one bit and the pull of gravity gets stronger every year. Ask me.

The tallest man in the world came from my home town. He liked a quarter inch being nine feet. Think what a hassle life was for him. You'll like the 250 and it's a lot easier on the old bod. Good luck.

Bill

 

[Neil in West Jersey]

I have the opposite problem, being onnly 5'6".

But I am always closer to my target than you are!!

 

[Ron Y]

Camman,

It seems the marketing gods consider me an aberation.

But it seems people are 'growing'and this must be considered.

I can give you a number of things that have changed.

I now drive a jeep wrangler unlimited,something I couldn't do a couple years ago.

 

[Uncle Willy]

Remember when the Jap rice burners first started showing up on our shores? I couldn't even get into one of them without a shoe horn and I'm only six two.

Bill