Question about modes

[Kapok]

In the Equinox manual, I'm finding some head-scratchers and thought someone could help me out.

In any particular mode, we have settings that can be changed (recovery speed, iron bias, # of tones, disc level, etc.). But apparently there is more behind each mode than just these settings. Here are some excerpts from the manual:

Park 1 and Field 1:
"Park 1 Multi-IQ processes a lower frequency weighting of the multi-frequency signal, as well as using algorithms that maximise ground balancing for soil, to achieve the best signal to noise ratio."

Park 2 and Field 2:
Multi-IQ processes a higher frequency weighted multi-frequency signal while ground balancing for soil.

So here are my observations/questions:
1. I could change the settings mentioned above in Park 1 so it essentially becomes Field 1 and similarly for Park 2 and Field 2.
2. The "weighting of the multi-frequency signal" in Park 1 and Field 1 - I'd like to know more about this but perhaps it's heavier electronics than I can understand.
3. If there are special ground balancing algorithms in Park 1 and Field 1, how does that affect the overall ground balancing of the detector?

 

[Mr. Carolina]

In the Equinox manual, I'm finding some head-scratchers and thought someone could help me out.

In any particular mode, we have settings that can be changed (recovery speed, iron bias, # of tones, disc level, etc.). But apparently there is more behind each mode than just these settings. Here are some excerpts from the manual:

Park 1 and Field 1:
"Park 1 Multi-IQ processes a lower frequency weighting of the multi-frequency signal, as well as using algorithms that maximise ground balancing for soil, to achieve the best signal to noise ratio."

Park 2 and Field 2:
Multi-IQ processes a higher frequency weighted multi-frequency signal while ground balancing for soil.

So here are my observations/questions:
1. I could change the settings mentioned above in Park 1 so it essentially becomes Field 1 and similarly for Park 2 and Field 2.

There is another Tech. forum that discusses this that might shed some light on the Equinox multi mode wave forms, frequencies and harmonics.
2. The "weighting of the multi-frequency signal" in Park 1 and Field 1 - I'd like to know more about this but perhaps it's heavier electronics than I can understand.
3. If there are special ground balancing algorithms in Park 1 and Field 1, how does that affect the overall ground balancing of the detector?

 

[Jason in Enid]

No, you can't mimic another mode by changing settings. The Equinox (800) is essentially 13 detectors in the same box. Each mode has different programming and analysis of the multi-freq used, behind any of the user settings like recovery, bias, etc. then you have the individual single freqs. Every single one is basically its own thing, we just have the option of switching which detector we want to use at the momemt. This is also why they instruct us to perform a noise cancel and (if needed) a ground balance for each mode change.

 

[IDXMonster]

Jason-Let me ask if you know for sure...Is it the same with the CTX?? Programming “weighted” toward various different conductors in the MODES no matter the settings? Curious about that!

 

[CCadrin]

No, the CTX modes are really different by the target separation and how much discrimination you apply to your pattern. The name named of the modes on the CTX are just names.

 

[Kapok]

No, you can't mimic another mode by changing settings. The Equinox (800) is essentially 13 detectors in the same box. Each mode has different programming and analysis of the multi-freq used, behind any of the user settings like recovery, bias, etc. then you have the individual single freqs. Every single one is basically its own thing, we just have the option of switching which detector we want to use at the momemt. This is also why they instruct us to perform a noise cancel and (if needed) a ground balance for each mode change.

Jason, awesome, thanks! How do you come about this knowledge? Are you a Minelab insider? Some people have this arcane knowledge about Minelabs that I can never seem to find for myself.

 

[Architex]

It's really all in the manual, you just have to bring a little extended logic to go with it.

 

[lytle78]

Nothing new here. The range of adjustments in user settings is often less than the total number of variables changed as the detector is shifted from mode to mode. Of course the fact that the frequencies are also variable is new, but there have been “unseen” processing changes as part of mode changes in detectors for many years.

 

[Jason in Enid]

Jason-Let me ask if you know for sure...Is it the same with the CTX?? Programming “weighted” toward various different conductors in the MODES no matter the settings? Curious about that!

It's different. The CTX uses the same multi-freq pattern for all the modes, but some modes alter how the return signal is interpreted. For instance, the HIGH TRASH mode tells it to ID the strongest ACCEPTED target, where others ID to the strongest target. So it would be useless to hunt HIGH TRASH with an open screen.

 

[Jason in Enid]

Jason, awesome, thanks! How do you come about this knowledge? Are you a Minelab insider? Some people have this arcane knowledge about Minelabs that I can never seem to find for myself.

I just try to learn everything I can about my toys and my hobby. Over the years, Minelabs people comment in the forums and other people know some of them and relay conversations theyve had. Some comes from manuals, some comes from insider testers, some is deduced by looking at all available info and connecting the dots.

 

[IDXMonster]

Jason-Let me ask if you know for sure...Is it the same with the CTX?? Programming “weighted” toward various different conductors in the MODES no matter the settings? Curious about that!

It's different. The CTX uses the same multi-freq pattern for all the modes, but some modes alter how the return signal is interpreted. For instance, the HIGH TRASH mode tells it to ID the strongest ACCEPTED target, where others ID to the strongest target. So it would be useless to hunt HIGH TRASH with an open screen.

Ok,thanks! That was what I understood as well,just wanted to make sure I hadn’t blown by something in the manual or Treasure Talk....

 

[dewcon4414]

a lot of the ADJUSTMENTS have more to do with what you hear through the phones and dont affect the depth or sensitivity of the target. Im guessing it has more to do with freq shifts...... much like the CHANNELS on say an Explorer/ET......some just work better in certain locations given the make up of the site and targets. Just like beach 1 and 2 there is an obvious difference in sensitivity and GB........ the GB seems to be about 4 digits higher in beach 2 than 1 and the sensitivity 3 or 4 digits lower than beach 1 in beach 2. Sooooo i find myself using say field 2 on the dry sand, beach 1 on the damp/wet..... and beach 2 in the water.

 

[ohiochris]

When the manual says a " lower weighting " in park 1 , what does that actually mean ?

 

[Jason in Enid]

When the manual says a " lower weighting " in park 1 , what does that actually mean ?

It means that it is favoring the lower frequencies for signal interpretation. Lower freqs are better for high conductors like silver and copper.