I have learned to calibrate my ear and have gotten better with this compadre, but I continue to have a newbie question. I have been mainly using it at old school properties and old parks, I can recognize scratchy little iron, harsh and loud scraps of aluminum or pull tabs, etc, but there is lots and lots of tiny foil gum wrappers and shreds. Generally they don't fool me, but very often they come in sounding clean, repeatable and round like a deep silver coin, They disc at about the same as a deep silver coin. I don't mind digging a lot, but this is a bit of a problem, too many of those tiny foil signals.
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question about compadre
- Thread starter walnut
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That sure sounds like a problem. The real problem is if you don't dig that foil, you will not dig gold chains. Sorry, but it is the truth. If you are in an area that you don't think there will be any gold than turn up your disc. I know them things are a pain in the butt. Happy hunting... KEN
Yeah-that's why it's referred to as the king of tot lots. You can just toss the gravel or wood chips aside with your foot and then recheck. Since the pinpointing is so accurate, in grass and similar places I rely on a thin screwdriver as a retriever/probe. After carefully pinpointing, I probe first.
kaolinwasher
Well-known member
thats why the outlaw is so cool you can turn down the threshold and it will miss most of the small foil , unless its right on the suface , but get a gold ring under it and it will let you know , one thing i remember about the compadre is the tiny things it can pick up , you may want to set the disc just a bit higher ,
REVIER
Well-known member
This might help a bit.
I don't do it the way all the manuals say and thumb the disc up to see where the targets discs out, I go past the target till the Compadre goes silent and then slowly thumb down and listen to how the target "comes in" instead.
I do this on every signal.
After digging thousands of targets good and bad I have come to the conclusion this is a way more accurate way to figure out trash because 99.9% of the good targets I have dug, even small gold rings and chains that come in at foil usually will just show up clean and solid whereas lots of trash will come in with scratches, pops and many clicks.
You really never know what you are scanning till you dig it and there is a possibility that some good targets could come in with some noise but I have not seen much of that at all including when good targets are right next to trash.
I have seen it a few times usually on a nickel, but even then there is usually something solid and pure in that sort of iffier tone that usually triggers my digging impulse so I still find and dig lots of nickels.
Also, lots of trash might come in solid depending on the shape, depth and orientation in the ground such as gum wrappers, condiment packages and sports drink cap inserts especially if they are laying flat and perpendicular to the surface of the ground, but as a rule I believe at least 80% of foil won't do this because it is usually irregular in shape.
I still dig some of this trash from time to time to check myself and if I hear something good in that tone the target gets dug no matter what but those targets still usually turn out to be trash.
Also swinging very fast over the target to see if it breaks up, and lifting the coil higher to see if it breaks up at the end of the scanning field can give you a clue.
Good targets should stay solid and full in their tone doing both these techniques.
There is still a small chance I could be missing something good doing it this way but I tend to hunt some of the trashiest sites you have ever seen and when I started hunting like this I dug way less trash and still managed to find way more than my share of great targets including gold so I am satisfied and the "what ifs" no longer bother me so much if I leave some targets in the ground.
I don't do it the way all the manuals say and thumb the disc up to see where the targets discs out, I go past the target till the Compadre goes silent and then slowly thumb down and listen to how the target "comes in" instead.
I do this on every signal.
After digging thousands of targets good and bad I have come to the conclusion this is a way more accurate way to figure out trash because 99.9% of the good targets I have dug, even small gold rings and chains that come in at foil usually will just show up clean and solid whereas lots of trash will come in with scratches, pops and many clicks.
You really never know what you are scanning till you dig it and there is a possibility that some good targets could come in with some noise but I have not seen much of that at all including when good targets are right next to trash.
I have seen it a few times usually on a nickel, but even then there is usually something solid and pure in that sort of iffier tone that usually triggers my digging impulse so I still find and dig lots of nickels.
Also, lots of trash might come in solid depending on the shape, depth and orientation in the ground such as gum wrappers, condiment packages and sports drink cap inserts especially if they are laying flat and perpendicular to the surface of the ground, but as a rule I believe at least 80% of foil won't do this because it is usually irregular in shape.
I still dig some of this trash from time to time to check myself and if I hear something good in that tone the target gets dug no matter what but those targets still usually turn out to be trash.
Also swinging very fast over the target to see if it breaks up, and lifting the coil higher to see if it breaks up at the end of the scanning field can give you a clue.
Good targets should stay solid and full in their tone doing both these techniques.
There is still a small chance I could be missing something good doing it this way but I tend to hunt some of the trashiest sites you have ever seen and when I started hunting like this I dug way less trash and still managed to find way more than my share of great targets including gold so I am satisfied and the "what ifs" no longer bother me so much if I leave some targets in the ground.
REVIER
Well-known member
hatpin said:
Yea...as a matter of fact after hunting this way with the Compadre I switched over to only hunting this way with the Vaq the same way.
It works pretty much the same, the disc on the Compadre is just a hair sharper than on my Vaq but the Vaq seems to be drifting a bit on that disc lately so as soon as the cold weather hits he is going back to the factory for a tuneup.
I also lowered my normal disc way down to iron from just below foil when I use the Vaq because it worked so well with the Compadre
Just this last week I have been a few tot lots and play grounds using the COMPADRE. I know you don't like foil. I don't like it either and no one else does either. These items all come in around that good old foil spot. The class ring disc. out at a high tab. I found a lot of trash. After a while you will get better with your ears and thumbing that disc dial. The crap will go like your rice crispy cereal. SNAP, CRACKLE, and POP.. It will come. Yes, we all dig a lot of foil and tabs... KEN
Thanks guys for the advice, you have so much valuable knowledge.
Going to a 1926 elementary school that was closed this evening. Found one old silver coin but all else so far trash. I am sure it has been cherry picked since the 70's but I think that they have probably missed a few.
Going to a 1926 elementary school that was closed this evening. Found one old silver coin but all else so far trash. I am sure it has been cherry picked since the 70's but I think that they have probably missed a few.
Rainyday101
New member
It may have been cherry picked, but you have a big advantage with that sweet little Compadre. That advantage is target separation. Tesoro's are great at this. It is in the trashy areas you will find the good stuff that others missed because they didn't have good target separation or they were too busy staring at a display. When you get to these trashy areas slow the swing speed down and overlap your passes real good. Your detector will separate the target from the trash. After a while you will get real good at finding the goodies in the trash. When you get a good hit in the trash, take short swings (like a couple of inches) to zero in on and locate the coin. It's easier to do than describe. I love trashy areas because that is where I find most of my coins and they indicate what were popular spots. I usually ignore the obvious spots in most parks, they have been hit hard. For some reason I find productive areas near the edges or parks and my first indications is the pops and clicks that scream trash.