Ok this is my input on the 4.5 coil on the pro,it is a great coil for surface gold and finds stuff just under depending on the size,I'm talking .3 ,this coil is a great tool for slipping in and out of crevices and in around rocks,I love spending time on quarts runs and ping bits hidden in the the rounded quarts that my dedicated gold detector misses,Just a tip rap 3 windes of electrical tape around the outside of your coil cover because they crack on impact with the rocks when cold,I use the 5x8 as well but mainly in more open areas,haven't had it long and will give it a run on the gold fields shortly but I have tested it on some specky's and it has no trouble telling you there is gold in them ,This may surprise some of you but my settings are standard mode/zero,/no discim/ and leave the pro audio on /l,sensitivity as high as the conditions will allow,these setting work for me and just hearing the moans a groans that indicate your right in the materialised ground where I should be,I will try and get some photos up today to show you how small the gold is that I'm talking about,just to add ,great post Steve and John.your input to this great forum i always appreciated.Bazz in Oz