Problem w/my 505....or is it me?

[Bunited2]

Hello all,

I'm not sure if it's me or my 505. I've watched the YouTube videos put on by BH, at least
4 times now.

I get multiple hits on my 505 and many squelches that ring up in the 1st box...so, I didn't
dig as to time constraints. I am in an area where there may be gold nuggets (among'st other things)
and very little trash.

I got curious so I thought I'd do a full test of the unit, a Morgan comes up exactly consistently as $ 1,
as does a $ 1/2, a quarter, a dime, a nickel and a copper penny...all were in the exact reading of what
they were and at approx. 8 ". However when I do a gold wedding set 14 + 18K it consistently rang up
in the 1st box, only once did it ring up in the 2nd box and never in the 3rd.

Needs calibration?
Any advise would be greatly appreciated.
PS I always do 'all metal' motion.

HH

Thanks, Brian

 

[BH505Man]

Brian,
Give First Texas a call. Those guys Know your detector inside and out.
Gold ringing up in the first segament doesn't sound right. It could be a calibration issue or other problems. My 22k band rings in the 2nd segament under foil. HH. and good luck.

Walt

 

[Bunited2]

Thanks BH505Man,

I will do that. HH

Thanks, Brian

 

[BH505Man]

Brian,
Try an experiment with your Pioneer 505. Get some lead fishing weights like splitshot of different sizes and see what your detector reads them as. See what segaments they ring in at. Because I understand that they read the same as gold does. HH.

Walt

 

[salmonriverhotrock]

That is a great idea as soft lead will detect pretty much as gold of about an equal size. Don't use hard lead like wheel weights as they have tin and other hardener alloys added to them. Gold jewelery like rings is another to stay away from as the shape and purity can detect much differently than natural gold. At a minimum though, place a piece of soft lead on the ground but better is to go an inch or two under to factor in the elements or condition of the ground so a guy can play with SENSITIVITY. I don't count on air testing as being any kind of good indicator. Don't expect the 505 to detect the real small grain size gold but begin with something about the size of a lead .22 bullet (not copper plated). A person can always add in a soft lead fishing sinker larger and smaller than a .22 bullet to see how small it will go.

 

[Bunited2]

Ok thanks guys,

I was wondering if it was a problem w/the rings themselves.

I will try the lead weight experiment tomorrow, especially while I was trying to
get a contact # for First Texas and happened on some reviews of their response.
It took 1 guy 4 weeks to get his detector back from the factory, others got very
good turn around times.

I was ready to just make sure I had the time to dig everything.

I was however very impressed w/the exact readout of all my other test items.

HH

Thanks, Brian

 

[Bunited2]

Hey Guys,

My detector flunked the split shot test, I started out w/a very small one and the detector
would pick it up sometimes (I buried it about 3"), then I added one next to the 1st, then a
3rd and finally a 4th.

Only twice did it ring up in the 2nd box and only once in the 3rd, otherwise it only rang
up in the 1st box every time.

Thanks for trying to help me, I will be hunting in areas w/VERY little junk, so I'll dig
everything.

[size=large]HH[/size]

Thanks, Brian

 

[salmonriverhotrock]

I'm wondering if you are getting something confused. Natural Gold nuggets depending on size, are going to most likely detect in the lower segment of the scale without discrimination. With a metal detector made for detecting Gold, Gold may not always sound as much loud as it could also sound very faint but distinct. The 505 is a Tone and display detector, not a hunt by sound unit so if your lowest Tone hit on your single split shot sinker, cut it in half and see if it will hit on smaller and so on until it won't at all. You also need solid test pieces, adding another along side the first is not a real good way of testing. Just an example but have one at 1 Gram, another at 2, and another at 3 and so on. Soft lead can also be shaped something like a nugget so rough it up a bit instead of detecting a split shot sphere. Also, Gold does not have to appear in the color Gold. It could look brown or rust stained but the clue will be it is heavier than you expect material it's size to be. I know a guy who found a nugget with a Mine Lab unit and he almost tossed it because it just looked like a rock with lots of sulfide or rust on it. By chance as he rotated it in his hand, he saw a tiny spot that was bare and showed that yellow Gold color. This one though was large enough that any detector should have hit on it.

 

[Bunited2]

Hey Robert,

Thanks for the advice. Whenever the shot (like my gold ring) rang up at all it was in
the 1st box (foil). So you're saying maybe I should melt a couple together and form
an irregular shape, that may be in the form of a natural nugget?

Again, my next trip I am going to dig everything as I am in an area that if there is any
trash, it will be from the turn of the century, the last turn of the century, not the current.

If I can start getting some finds I want to get a gold bug, as I am searching areas that
did heavy gold mining.

HH

Thanks, Brian