Problem solved

[Coinseeker 78]

I was having a hard time hunting with my buddy and getting discouraged with my success. He was going behind me and finding old coins I had missed. I would even sweep over his target before he dug it and would get a solid reading. I could not figure why i had missed that target. After reading some suggestions from a previous query I tried them this evening with remarkable results. In just 30 minutes I picked up 7 coins all clad but down about 4 inches. It seems because I use the 11 inch coil frequently I found myself not overlapping my swings enough with the smaller 5X8 coil. The coil would find coin signals in between junk like I never imagined. This detector is a hot coin machine and I will be using it with full confidence in the future, I thought I had just about hunted my yard out but discovered it to be still virgin territory.

 

[John-Edmonton]

Time to get your camera working and start posting some pics.....

 

[BJ in Okla.]

I hunt with friends that use the E-Trac's, have one my self,,,it has helped me a lot to check their targets....
I run my AT Pro in Pro mode, nothing notched out, iron disc at 35,,iron audio on and max sens.
Most of my time has been with the 5x8 coil...
I swing from left to right and then go back over the same ground, swinging from right back to the left, if I hear a iffy sound,, I check it by moving around the target...
If you hunt from north to south, then east to west, and then like, se to nw....Don't get in a hurry..
I have the 4.5" SS con. coil,the 6x9 con. coil and the 5x8 dd coil and the 8x11 dd coil....
I have checked some of my friends targets,, with one using the 11" pro coil or the 12x15 sef coil on his ET.
I can tell you this,, on the real deep coins, nothing shows on the screen,,but there is a faint sound,, those are the ones you need to dig,,,,not all the time,but once and a while,, a deep coin....
My friend has been using the E T for like 3 or 4 yrs,,,I only got my AT pro in Feb.....
All the sites that we hunt have been pounded for years,,, so nothing is ever hunted out...
We were hunting a park one time,,my friend was using his E T with the 11" coil,,I was using my E T with the X-8" coil,,my friend marked a target,,,I could not pick up the target,, I tried the sens in manual and raised the sens,, could not pick up the target,,,my friend dug the target,, it was a old wheatie down about 7",,,but the wheatie was in the side of the hole, almost straight up and down,, so i am thinking the bigger coil works better on coins that are on edge...
Last time that I hunted,, because of the temps being over 100deg, I dug my first wheatie, 1915 with the 4.5 ss coil,, this was not my first wheatie,,, but the first with the small coil.,,
It is fun to be out hunting and a light rain blows in,, and watch my friends run for their trucks..
Take your time,, it will come to you..
HH...Bj

 

[TheGeorgiaCanuck]

BJ, lose that discrim, turn OFF iron audio and go back over your areas again, digging iffy signals. I guarantee you will find coins you missed before, I did.

 

[BJ in Okla.]

I do not disc or notch anything out,, all black squares all the way across the screen...
I have tried it with iron audio off, but like it on better.......
This place that I have been hunting for over a month, has a lot of rusty bottle caps and alum screw caps and pull tabs...

How will turning the iron audio off help me ???

I dig iffy signals, if they are deep....
Thanks & HH....
Bj

 

[Coinseeker 78]

I find I like to hunt in pro 0 mode with no discrimination. If I go over e questionable signal like a high tone next to iron I will use iron audio setting to help decide if it is a separate target from the iron. usually you will get a double beep if it is a iron cap. Aluminum still throws me a curve at times but I will dig all deep non ferrous signals 4 or more inches deep. I have found a very tight wiggle will sometime change to a high tone and many times it is a coin in trashy areas.I like this machine since it does a good job in highly mineralized soil and handles EMI better than my F70. Although the F70 goes deeper and is excellent at unmasking targets.

 

[William-NM]

Good thread, Guys! I appreciate your sharing of successful techniques-- maybe it'll sink in this time

 

[BJ in Okla.]

I have dug so many of them alum screw caps,,,,but I don't want to pass them by,,,someday it will pay off digging them..

I had a F-70, 3 F-75's and a Omega 8000,,, but where I hunt there is to much EMI......
I have only hunted one spot where I had to drop one bar down from Max sens....
I like the AT Pro for the places that I hunt..
My GB is most of the time at 80,,, I think 83 is the highest and like 73 is the lowest....
Its been awhile since I have used my 3d and Edge.....
HH....Bj

 

[TheGeorgiaCanuck]

I do not disc or notch anything out,, all black squares all the way across the screen...
I have tried it with iron audio off, but like it on better.......
This place that I have been hunting for over a month, has a lot of rusty bottle caps and alum screw caps and pull tabs...

How will turning the iron audio off help me ???

I dig iffy signals, if they are deep....
Thanks & HH....
Bj

Well this confuses people, but if your not running anything discriminated out 00 to 40 range and turn iron audio ON, you do NOT get the low iron growls that you get with it ON and something discriminated out 00 to 40. If you turn it on with nothing discrimed out you just get medium/high tones. With it OFF, you get low tone growls, medium tones and high tones. I like to hear the iron so if I get a chirp in there I can quickly zero in on it amoungst the iron.

At first you will get information overload from all the sounds, slow down, really slow down and listen. As you learn your machine in a few months of usage, you'll find yourself speeding up your swings and still hearing those chirps.

I still slow down in heavy iron to not miss stuff, and dig iffy signals, you WILL be surprised alot if you do.

Another thing, if your getting high tones and seeing the VDI numbers jumping around from 60's to 99. Almost always it's iron or a bent nail. If it's 60's to 90's and no 98-99 in there, I dig it. That 99 seems to be a iron indicator sometimes. If it's a solid 99, it's either a huge chunk of aluminum or a silver dollar or huge honking silver something.

 

[gsmith]

I find I like to hunt in pro 0 mode with no discrimination. If I go over e questionable signal like a high tone next to iron I will use iron audio setting to help decide if it is a separate target from the iron. usually you will get a double beep if it is a iron cap. Aluminum still throws me a curve at times but I will dig all deep non ferrous signals 4 or more inches deep. I have found a very tight wiggle will sometime change to a high tone and many times it is a coin in trashy areas.I like this machine since it does a good job in highly mineralized soil and handles EMI better than my F70. Although the F70 goes deeper and is excellent at unmasking targets.

Coinseeker 78= I don't know where your at, because that makes a huge difference, but here where I live ...I've had a F75 LTD, and a T2SE and the Pro is deeper than both ( and yes it holds it own against both in boost mode ) in both my old test garden ( which is going on 17yrs old ) ...and in the real world.....sorry but having owned almost every " top " level detector over the years it bugs the heck outta me when I see those xxxx is deeper lines in a post....

 

[BJ in Okla.]

I do not disc or notch anything out,, all black squares all the way across the screen...
I have tried it with iron audio off, but like it on better.......
This place that I have been hunting for over a month, has a lot of rusty bottle caps and alum screw caps and pull tabs...

How will turning the iron audio off help me ???

I dig iffy signals, if they are deep....
Thanks & HH....
Bj

Well this confuses people, but if your not running anything discriminated out 00 to 40 range and turn iron audio ON, you do NOT get the low iron growls that you get with it ON and something discriminated out 00 to 40. If you turn it on with nothing discrimed out you just get medium/high tones. With it OFF, you get low tone growls, medium tones and high tones. I like to hear the iron so if I get a chirp in there I can quickly zero in on it amoungst the iron.

At first you will get information overload from all the sounds, slow down, really slow down and listen. As you learn your machine in a few months of usage, you'll find yourself speeding up your swings and still hearing those chirps.

I still slow down in heavy iron to not miss stuff, and dig iffy signals, you WILL be surprised alot if you do.

Another thing, if your getting high tones and seeing the VDI numbers jumping around from 60's to 99. Almost always it's iron or a bent nail. If it's 60's to 90's and no 98-99 in there, I dig it. That 99 seems to be a iron indicator sometimes. If it's a solid 99, it's either a huge chunk of aluminum or a silver dollar or huge honking silver something.

Sorry,,,,I have iron disc set on 35,,,,,but nothing above that is disc'ed out.......

I did dig a 1943 half,,, 99 in the ground and like 92 or 93 out of the ground.....
You can see what looks like rust in the top of the plug...
Bj

 

[sparkster]

Those are great posts. I know I hunt with to fast of a swing. I'm trying to slow down. Covering to much area in to short of a time is not a good thing.
Consequently I have only found 1 gold ring in the last year with my AT pro. Your post has really hit home.

Thank you. GL and HH

Sparkster

 

[khouse]

Your in luck because your machine and the Ace series can be swept faster than most other machines and hit coins at great depth. It's the coil coverage that is the key to finding goodies. We are looking for targets of around 1 inch in diameter. With bad coil technique it's easy to miss possibly a find of a life time. Make sure you have "at least" 50% overlap. Also make sure you overlap each pass by 12 inches too.