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Prizm, Classic V or Ace 250?

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King-John

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Looking at picking up a second machine one the wife could use and also as a back up, to keep the wife interest needs to be easy to use and the tones need to be easy to decipher from good and bad targets.
Any help would be appreciated.
 
The 250 has more features than the Prizm 2,3,4 and 5. Plus it's less than half price of the P5. Also accessory coils are cheaper. The main difference is that the 250 can accept or reject any or all the notches. The P5 has smart notch. This is a factory set coin mode notch. The 250 also has 12 target notches. P5 has 8. Ace 250 runs on 4 cheap AA batteries. The P5 runs on two high priced 9 volts. Ace 250 has a 4.5 inch sniper coil for only $63.00. Also a 9x12 large coil for $85.00. Both coils are killers on coins and jewelry.
The P5 cost $450.00
You can buy the Ace 250, sniper coil, 9x12 coil and the new Propointer for $480.00 That is the package I would look into.
 
Include the Fisher f2 in your consideration.... DD coil, light weight, 1-99 TID, faster, deeper, and cheaper than the ACE, easy to read interface, 12 notch, and three coils. The only thing bad about it is the cost of the two 9v batteries it takes. The Ace has poor balance and my son and wife both disliked the tones and the difficult to read display + it has a love affair with foil.

Better yet, pick up a used f4 or f5. I just let my f4 (with three coils) go for 215....so they are out there.
 
I have also owned the F2. Smambler is right that it's better balanced. But in my field and air tests the 250 and F2 were the same on depth. Both will solidly hit a silver dime in the air at around 9 inches. Even the Prizms hit a dime in the air at 9 inches. Here is a couple of things I didn't like about the F2. The small 4 inch coil is way too hot off the edges. Meaning that even with the sens all the way down wouldn't let you get within 12 inches of play equipment supports. The 4.5 Ace sniper will get you right next to the supports. Second was the TID was way off on any target deeper than 4 inches with the F2. Even in the air tests the further away you swept a target the less accurate the numbers and notches were. The Ace 250 in an air test will correctly ID the dime at 9 inches. This is just my opinion. Yours may vary.
 
I'm must have had a hot f2 or a crappy Ace250 because the f2 did much better.

I also found the f2 to have different target ID by depth, but that ID to be consistent when at those depths. So, if you're in the middle box for depth the ID on a dime will be consistent, if you're in the third box (deepest) it will also be consistent - just different. After using it for 10-15 hours, you'll get pretty good at knowing what's under the coil. AND - it KILLS nickles while avoiding tabs better than any machine I've used and those include the two I'm left with - the f75 and Explorer 2.
 
No doubt you got a hot one. I had to send my first one back because it would ID any coin as iron after 3 inches in the air. Fisher sent me a new F2 and it was a lot better but still didn't ID targets as well as my 250. Who knows why? I would choose the F2 over the P5 though. When Whites comes out with the small coil for the Prizms I'm going to try the 6T. Monte V. seems to really like it. That's saying a lot!
 
I have a 250 and it is allot of features for the price, and the 4.5 sniper coil is a hot little coil for a good price. I just don't really use it after I tried it a few times because the Bell Tone isn't my cup of coffee. Not saying it's a bad machine, just the audio is not for me. It gets used as a loaner now. But check out the Garrett section and there are loads of successful users.
Tried a Prizm once (lower model) at a dealers for maybe 5-10 minutes, and haven't tried a Classic V - so can't really comment on them.
In the last year, I mostly used Tesoro. The Explorer-II hits deep silver but wears on the arm in a couple hours. The F-75 is fast and light, well balanced - I need to dedicate some more time on it I guess for 2009. The Tesoro audio got me hooked.
 
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