PP VS. Detect TID Numbers ??

[Buried Crap NJ]

I have noticed that the PP, FE-CO numbers are different from the normal detect mode. Pg 27 in the manual says that the FE-CO numbers are still updated in PP. I have found that the numbers seen not to be the same, and some times vary greatly? If this has been discussed please point me in the right direction.
BCNJ

 

[Erik in NJ]

Little-known fact is that the SE Pro also IDs (as well as indicates depth) in pinpoint mode....which set of numbers do you think is more accurate? On iffy targets on the SE, I tend to go with the more stable pinpoint ID.

 

[Larry (IL)]

I think the TID in search mode is an average of what is under the coil and pinpoint TID info is more accurate because you have narrowed the analyzed area down. I trust the pinpoint data more.

 

[doc1964]

The E-Trac did the same thing - I noticed that the FE number usually went to iron in PP - I think because it's a true all metal mode, so if the soil is mineralized or iron is around it's going to jump up. Conductive numbers are usually pretty accurate.

 

[Buried Crap NJ]

The reason why I asked was because on the beach in the wet sand with my settings. A quarter nearly always reads 11-47 95 out of 100 times the other five times it reads 12-47 but every time I PP it always reads 12-47 All of which is fine but I just wanted to know what's up.
BCNJ

 

[Erik in NJ]

Sounds like the PP numbers are more accurate...I wouldn't get too attached to the numbers, go with sound first then look at the numbers to get a confirmation of what you think the target is. You should try to condition yourself to hunting mainly by sound.

 

[Digger]

Honestly, with the Target Trace images on the SmartScreen, the TID number isn't as important to me as it may be some others. To me, it is more convenient to watch those icons move around the screen than to try and keep up with the numbers. I'm more of a "hunt by ear" kind of guy. But, if I were going by the numbers, I'd have more confidence in the PP numbers due to PP being an all metal AND non-motion mode. Being able to S-L-O-W the coil down to a snail's pace helps me get those FE numbers to "lock on" with PP. It has been my observation that the CO numbers are fairly consistent with hunt and PP. But the ferrous numbers can vary quite a bit, depending on the target. Coins-----not so much. But iron and even pull tabs will make those FE numbers dance away from the 12 line when using PP. Regardless, having the ability to see multiple targets under the coil simultaneously is a huge step from previous technology. We just have to develop our own method of sorting them out. JMHO HH Randy

 

[Buried Crap NJ]

Sounds like the PP numbers are more accurate...I wouldn't get too attached to the numbers, go with sound first then look at the numbers to get a confirmation of what you think the target is. You should try to condition yourself to hunting mainly by sound.

Erik interesting you should say go by tone first. I had initially set the detector up in combine mode and set my tones from a lower nickle tone to a high silver tone. I had thought this would been a good set up. While I did dig gold and a bunch of clad. I have now gone back to 50 tones beach mode modified a bit. I remember reading a couple of post by rjfjedi and he was digging nothing but iron. I think we all stopped to wonder just how this could be.I am now guessing that with all the talk of dig the high tones,a new 3030 hunters like rjfjedi were doing just that. In standard 50 tone beach mode, open screen those iron number scream silver.
BCNJ

 

[texasranger]

The E-Trac did the same thing - I noticed that the FE number usually went to iron in PP - I think because it's a true all metal mode, so if the soil is mineralized or iron is around it's going to jump up. Conductive numbers are usually pretty accurate.

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Hi Doc..etc......and Buried -Crap....(Luv that name-tag, I'll bet you've got a great sense of humour.)

In several of my previous posts relating to the E-trac, ( Ferrous audio etc.....good targets near iron.)

I would always preface my advise on the best retrieval process, by telling the reader that:-

When you try to pin-point the target, the detector is in ALL METAL mode....

and therefore you generally are primarily drawn to actually pin-pointing the IRON target involved, rather than the non-ferrous.

So.....Remove the iron THEN go find the good target.....

The point being......IN PIN-POINT MODE...YOU WILL MORE LIKELY THAN NOT ....read THE DOMINANT IRON.

Does that explanation make sense in the present debate ?......It should, because I'm assuming the same basic principles are involved

......Tex.....(a rose by any other name)

 

[squirrel1]

I trust the detect numbers with tone more. Pinpoint numbers may or may not be good depending on junk/iron. Also one can get fooled too by the size when using the sizing mode of pinpoint. If it's a good tone and the coil will not pick the target up when the coil is raised 7 inches I'm digging everytime. I have been fooled like this about 3 times and all 3 times were coin spills and pretty ddep too. People can call me crazy for digging a can every now and then, but that's better than letting the big one get away. I saw on another thread where someone dug what looks like a silver picture frame. I think the gent said it was folded up but you reckon if it were not folded how it would have pinpointed and how many would have been thinling can?