Okay, the ole fart thats always griping will gripe no more. Iam very happy to let you know we have a very dedicated member to our hobby. My adult daughter. she has gotten addicted to meteal detecting literally. Making her old ,crippled up dad look like newbie.no offense to newbies , but ive been doing this a little while with totally out dated equipment. anyhow things are going to change. Not knowing anything about, i recommended ace 250. Not knowing anything about ,Iknow you all will help her out. she is using little bottom line detector but lots of drive. Best my young grandchildren having lots fun at tot lots L o l that most important ! dad going to try to help set her up with better equipment on a budget . Told her to get on this forum ,lots of great people. She has already surpassed my activity 10-1