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Spent several hours beach hunting and I can say my F75 is great in all areas of the wet sand. I found coins from the beginning of the wet down to the actual water. I actually found coins in 2 inches of salt water. I will be posting my setups when I get back from the beach. I might add one test I made was a complete suprise, more on that later


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I have been hesitant to take mine to the beaches.........when you have several CZ's sitting around collecting dust, plus an Infinium & a C$ with a salt mode, those have been my first choices....
But I'll be interested in your beach settings......
HH,
Bill
 
I'd like to try them. Conversed with Troy, sounds very good and not too long a wait....John
My email addy.....texasdigger@sbcglobal.net
 
Tinfoil, the settings worked very good for me and it gave me a head start. I made a few modifications when it comes to using the discrimination mode. The machine ran very smooth in the all metal mode with the settings you gave me. You were right about the 5 point settings in the GB setting. I found several coins in the shallow water too. When I finish testing and making sure the settings work every time I'll write you and let you know.
Thanks for everything.
 
A Search of 2007 and 2008. I think one was Nov of 2007. I want to say March of 2008. I think there was a very big one prior to Nov of 2007. Anyway they are there and they are long. HH Guys, Nice to hear from you John TX. Jerry aka Tinfoil
 
Jerry I was at the ocean yesterday with my F75 and I had remembered part of (or all of, not sure) your settings and I hunted the wet sand that way and it was ok, kinda like alot of other detectors that arent really made for the wet sand but will do OK there. .

I used:

all metal motion mode
manual GB (for me it was 0)
low gain on the sens, 27 or 28
I think you mentioned some freq that worked better for you but I didnt remember so I just left it
I got like a mild "wow" sound while swinging the detector but tolerable and did find some coins.
I dont think at this point its possible to get it to run as smooth as a minelab or a pi(meaning in quietness/depth) but definetly worthy enough that if your not a regular ocean/bay beach hunter this unit will suffice.

if you can add to this please do, might help some folks out.

Neil
 
All metal gets better depth, but I feel lucky.
There is no RF problems in my area. I can run sensitivity in the 90's.
I remembered years ago when I hunted with the Tesoro Vaquero a local MD dealer on the coast told me to get as close as I could with ground balancing and turn up the discrimination to just below nickel and it allow me to hunt. So I GB in the wet sand area to about 2 two clicks above 0 and the sensitivity at 80 then I turned up the discrimination to 21 and wow it sure worked for me. Now there was some noise so I turned the sensitivity to 70 and began to hunt. Not knowing if I was missing anything I switched to AM mode and used the program Tinfoil sent me. When I'd find a target I'd switch to discrimination mode and see if I could still aquire the target before recovery. More testing is needed before I'll know for sure the different modes work the way they seem.
 
That also holds true when you are in that real bad mineralized dirt. Use you threshold in all metal and drop it down to the - numbers vice 0 or + numbers and that will quieten it down some and knock out some of the ground flutter or wherring or as you say WoW. Try switching different freqs also. That will quieten it down some and you should be able to run a higher sen. I can run 70 to 80 sen threshold of -3 and a freq of 7,6or 5 with out any depth loss on the deep targets even in that bad black sand in all metal. I can't run in Dis. there due to all the small iron and the black sand. I hunt with a fast sweep as that helps also. Just be aware of the deep little quite smooth zip zips or any zip zip you will get when you are sweeping fast so you have to slow down a little. Ever small ZipZip you get investigate them. They could be a deep target or small gold target.

Also on my black sand beaches with the iron you can tell it real easy as the large iron will give you a long BAAAAAA audio and the small stuff will give you a Quieter BaDa audio or a pop of the audio. The corroded zinc's will even have a crappy zip zip.

Now my F75 does not run as smooth as my SE or Safari on the black sand beaches but I can dig twice the targets and get the same depth as the Explorers even in that bad A$$ wet black salt sand. It does not get as much depth as my Explorers/Safari with the 10X14 Excellerator coil but that is a 10X14" coil. Not apples to apples. However my F75 will find the small Gold better then my Explorers and that is a fact. That goes for anywhere I hunt. Dirt Salt water beaches anywhere. Period.

My F75 will false if the coil hits the sand and I lose some depth compaired to my Explorers. Not much. My 10X14 excellerator coil, that I use on my Safari and SE, you can drag it on the wet black salt sand and no falsing. Hell of a deep coil. Naturally when you can get closer to the wet sand the deeper you will get targets. The F75 sure is not a slouch when it comes to depth at the beach. 10 and 12"s is not my definition of being a slouch. I can usually run the sen at 80 in the damp black wet sand but, down at the waters edge I have to drop to 70/75 sen. I usually G/B in the damp wet black sand when I find the coin/jewlery line and work 10ft both sides of it. When the line runs out I just either go up or down 10 ft of the old line zigzag till I find it again and continue on.

When I first start looking for the coin/jewlery line I G/B in the wet sand, Not the sloppy wet sand and I hunt from the dry to the waters edge till I find the line then I G/B at the line and work it 10ft both sides. Any more then 10ft then the G/B gets out of wack. When the line changes then reG/B. BTW the Threshold in all metal does affect the Dis. mode as does the Freq. adjustment. So adjust both if your machine gets noisy in all metal till it quitens down.

G/B often and on my wet black sand I can usually get a G/B at 5+3 clicks and at the waters edge I can have to adjust it to either 0 or 0+ 2 or 3 clicks. Remember, again at the beach, each click between numbers, and there are 5 of them means alot when it comes to G/B. Also even in bad dirt. So don't over adjust you machine.. Hopes this helps some of you guys that want to hunt the beaches with the F75. Next time someone says the F75 don't hunt good at a salt water beach. Don't tell them nothing. Just post a :rofl: and that will be enough. :D: :D: HH Jerry aka Tinfoil
 
Ok Jerry thanks for all that info. lowering the threshold is something I didnt think of, I will give that a try, especially if it allows me to run a higher sens. Im not sure what you mean by the 5 clicks, 3 clicks, I will have to look into the manual again on that.

if you havent tried it, the 10X12 SEF is a super coil, after using it on my explorer(which I sold off) and then on to my etrac, the stock pro coil is sitting collecting dust, the SEF stays on. its tough too, keep that coil cover off, no problems yet and Ive hit my share of clam shells with it:thumbup:

Thanks again and I will post how those adjustments workout.

Neil
 
G/B numbers are 0 to 99. Between each number there are 5 detents between each G/B number. You can feel the detents when you are turning the knob. That is why I said in just the wet sand I G/B at 5 + 3 clicks or 3 detents. Hope this helped. This is very important at the beach and in the bad dirt. HH :D: :D: Jerry aka Tinfoil
 
Tinfoil said:
G/B numbers are 0 to 99. Between each number there are 5 detents between each G/B number. You can feel the detents when you are turning the knob. That is why I said in just the wet sand I G/B at 5 + 3 clicks or 3 detents. Hope this helped. This is very important at the beach and in the bad dirt. HH :D: :D: Jerry aka Tinfoil

Jerry I see what you mean about the clicks between each number on the GB setting. Setting the threshold in the negative like on -3 really helps quiet it down over wet sand. i only tried it for a short hunt but yep, zip zip like you said:fisher:
Ive gotta get some more hunts in on it, been using other detectors.

Thanks much,
Neil
 
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