Please Help to Identify Token and surspender Clip ( I think )

[Dennis 2]

Could someone please give me some info on these two Finds . Thanks for looking .
Token . It doesn't have any money value on it . The Center of the token says : 3rd. Door South of Wall St . ,and around the circumference it says, Hallock Dolson & Bates , 41 william st . Other side says the same in the middle . But around the circumference it says Wholesale Dry Goods , 41 William st . If anyone knows the History of this token please let me know .

A Surspender Clip ( I think ) ,but it has a hook on the end of it to hang something off of it . If you know what it is please let me know .

 

[Tioga]

According to ThatCannonballGuy over in the Relic Forum, your suspender clip "appears to be a Garter-strap clasp ...used to hold up a stocking or a sock. The strap connected through the rectangular slot at the top. The key for recognizing this style of garter-clasp is the unusual "hook and retainer-tongue" arrangement. In order to grasp the sock/stocking's fabric without piercing or tearing it, the hook's tip is rounded rather than a sharp-pointed tip ...and the "tongue" just above it kept the fabric from slipping off the rounded hook-point."

There's a post with a picture of the same kind of clasp you found.

Here's the post: http://www.findmall.com/read.php?30,400358,400358#msg-400358

 

[Dave~UT]

The Standard Catalog of U.S. Tokens, lists 2 of these. One is just Hallock & Bates, the other Hallock,Dolson & Bates.
H & B,1834-1837. 234 Pearl St. N.Y.
H,D & B,1838-1840. This partnership does not appear in the New York directories.
By the way, this is a Hard Times token. This is all I know without doing a Google search.
Nice find.

 

[Dennis 2]

Dave , were can I find out more info about the Token ? Thanks Again
Dennis

 

[Dave~UT]

token

Sometimes info on tokens is scarce. Some are mavericks- origin unknown. Yours is a R4 rarety meaning 76-200 known. You may just have to look up the names individually and hope for the best

 

[Dennis 2]

Dave , thank you again for your help . I'll see what else I can dig up on it and let you know .
HH
Dennis