Ok just picked up a TR ,anybody have any hints how to find the target . I noticed that it will pick up a coin two inches easy out side of the coil ring all way around with a solid signal.... And I had trouble locating the target yesterday.digging multiple holes and still missing where target was...I tried several ways to come in on target with the coil that has worked on other detectors .Any help sure would be sorely welcomed
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Pinpointing with BHTR?
- Thread starter Woodchuck
- Start date
I don't know your skill level so I don't mean to patronize, but it sounds like you could benefit by setting up a practice garden and just practice listening to the sound levels of quarters visible on the ground. I know the old Bounty Hunters had an "X" on the middle of the coil about an inch forward of the connecting rod and when the coin was directly under that "X" that's when you got the most intense signal. I think all you need is a little practice, if the machine is acting unstable or you're not getting the hang of it in one afternoon, you might consider a replacement. I owned a Bounty Hunter back in the '70's and I loved that machine!
Hello Woodchuck,
Nice to hear from you. First are you trying to P.P. in the disc. mode or the all metal smart track mode. To P.P with the time ranger you need to press all metal smart track to acuratly P.P. Once you have located your target and you know about where its hiding.(using the disc mode.) You press the all metal smart track pad then swing your coil back over the target ,,as the center ring of the coil gets closer to the target the all metal hum willl get louder ,now as you move the coil and it gets further from the target the all metal hum will decrease ,now move the coil back in the opposite direction until the hum increases again. Do this side to side and forward and backward until the hum is loud or strong as it will get under the center ring of the coil and your target will be right there .If this method does not work you may have a bad coil ,Also if the hum is to loud or strong you can move your coil off to the side of the suspected target and press all metal smart track again until the hum becomes more focused the target should allways be under the center ring of the coil as this is the receiver coil and the outer ring is the transmitter coil ,Of course i am assuming that your Time Ranger was suplied with the 8 in. spider coil and not the 7.5 in.solid coil . I agree that a test garden is a good way to go. I have one and I use golf tees to mark where the coins are so I can get a good visual picture of where the coin actually is in relation to where my P.P (all metal smart track mode) says it is. The Time Ranger is a very good pinpointer once you have learned this function As you get to learn your machine you will see the T.R. will do things that other detectors cant do esspecially once you learn how to manually program your T.R. using the disc target touchpad in conjunction with your target accept (+) and target reject(-) touch pads, but thats another story.
I hope this helps. Happy Huntin !
ranger505
Nice to hear from you. First are you trying to P.P. in the disc. mode or the all metal smart track mode. To P.P with the time ranger you need to press all metal smart track to acuratly P.P. Once you have located your target and you know about where its hiding.(using the disc mode.) You press the all metal smart track pad then swing your coil back over the target ,,as the center ring of the coil gets closer to the target the all metal hum willl get louder ,now as you move the coil and it gets further from the target the all metal hum will decrease ,now move the coil back in the opposite direction until the hum increases again. Do this side to side and forward and backward until the hum is loud or strong as it will get under the center ring of the coil and your target will be right there .If this method does not work you may have a bad coil ,Also if the hum is to loud or strong you can move your coil off to the side of the suspected target and press all metal smart track again until the hum becomes more focused the target should allways be under the center ring of the coil as this is the receiver coil and the outer ring is the transmitter coil ,Of course i am assuming that your Time Ranger was suplied with the 8 in. spider coil and not the 7.5 in.solid coil . I agree that a test garden is a good way to go. I have one and I use golf tees to mark where the coins are so I can get a good visual picture of where the coin actually is in relation to where my P.P (all metal smart track mode) says it is. The Time Ranger is a very good pinpointer once you have learned this function As you get to learn your machine you will see the T.R. will do things that other detectors cant do esspecially once you learn how to manually program your T.R. using the disc target touchpad in conjunction with your target accept (+) and target reject(-) touch pads, but thats another story.
I hope this helps. Happy Huntin !
ranger505
nick hunter
New member
Hello,
I agree with 505Ranger on the P/P method : use the all metal smarttrac mode;
If you're still confused by the "broad" signal in case of a very shallow target, you can try an old method (going back to times we only had no motion detectors), and that is DE TUNING.
You do that just by placing the coil NEAR the broadest response of the all metal mode, but STILL hearing the signal. Then, RE TUNE the detector by pressing the all metal smarttrac knob, and you should be able now to get an accurate P/P of the target.
HH
Nick
I agree with 505Ranger on the P/P method : use the all metal smarttrac mode;
If you're still confused by the "broad" signal in case of a very shallow target, you can try an old method (going back to times we only had no motion detectors), and that is DE TUNING.
You do that just by placing the coil NEAR the broadest response of the all metal mode, but STILL hearing the signal. Then, RE TUNE the detector by pressing the all metal smarttrac knob, and you should be able now to get an accurate P/P of the target.
HH
Nick
Ok. Now that I know what this is all about- I helped a guy with the Discovery 3000 and thought I had overstepped my bounds of helping people when he finally told me that you didn't hold the pp button down. Finally, I discovered you had to tap it several times as you neared the approximate target and it would shrink the target down to size to easily pp. The guy was extremely happy. He, too, had holes bigger than 4".slingshot said:OMIGOSH! I thought he was talking about a transmitter-receiver detector.
:Hello slingshot
You are exactly right the coil on your detector is a transmitter receiver.Sort of like an antenna that transmits a resonate signal of ( on old B.H detectors) 6.7Khz. This signal is transmitted thru the ground forming a cone , the deeper the target the smaller the cone becomes. Once the cone passes over a target, the target reflects this information back to the receiver coil wich in turn transmits the target info via the coil wire back to the detectors microprocesser located within the detector control housing.Once the info is processed WHALLA the detector sounds off a tone or a tone and info on a screen or visual aid of some type to tell the detectorist what has been located. This info aplies to the concentric coil The D..D coil is a whole different animal, Works sort of like a wind sheild wiper. But thats another story .
Hope This Helps
Happy Huntin 505ranger
B.H. 505 8in.coil time ranger version 4 with old style F4 DD coil( 5 pin connector push in ) lesche 36in.ground shark,,true temper trowel & centech pinpointer, sore back,knees & shoulders.;
Thanks for replies and thanks 505 ranger yeah I 'm getting the hang of pinpointing now having to have to use the all metal smart trac pinpoint button.Otherwise trying to just xing the target doesn't cut it. And boy I use to thing xing with the 1270 was bad its a breeze compared to TR....I'll say this though the TR does go deep ... i'm digging pennies etc deeper than I ever found before.
Hi Woodchuckyour welcome. One thing that might help you a little bit is to remember that only the inner ring of the coil receives the reflected signal of the target. My 8in. coils inner ring is about 3in.diameter. This is the only part of the coil that will sound off as you pass over the target and it is within this little circle that your target will be. As the center ring of the coil passes over the target in all metal smart track mode you will notice the hum fade as the ring of the inner coil moves away from the target but will increase as you aproach the oppisite side of the inner coil once you hear the increase move the coil back toward the other side of the inner coil until the hum fades again Your target should be right about there, That should put it within the 3in. ring of the inner coil. I hope this helps. I started out with a gold digger to see if I would like detecting and I used to have to use the xing method with that detector and it was a pain in the @#$5%SS.I hope I can say that here. But long story short I loved detecting! Been doin it ever since. Really only about two and a half years.But anyway I am sorry if i have repeated myself and I hope this narrows it down a little better.Thanks for being pateint with me .
Happy huntin.
505ranger