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Pinpointer?
- Thread starter nesdore
- Start date
Larry (IL)
Well-known member
I have heard some bad reviews on the Vulcun, I would shy away from it. The Garrett was the King of the hill until the White's TRX came out. The TRX is the one I would recommend although it is not one of your choices.
The Pro Pointer i still the best one in my opinion,the new one from Whites does seem to be gathering sales due to some nice features but the thing that stops me buying one is we still do not have a clue how reliable it is and that will only start showing over time.Any new detector or equipemnt that comes to the market i always give it a minimum 9 months time duration before i part with my money.
Of course it may turn out to be a show stopper but at the moment the Garrett is still the No1 probe.
Of course it may turn out to be a show stopper but at the moment the Garrett is still the No1 probe.
Ah yes! The eternal and inexhaustable topic of Pinpointers! Finally!
I have an Fpoint, and for my style of hunting (clad/jewelry, screwdriver in the top 5") its perfect...a guy can slip that thin long probe down into a screwdriver hole and sniff around in the grass roots for a coin on edge, ring, or chain! It ONLY buzzes when it is touching metal, so its really good for this kind of thing...I use it maybe once per 200 targets, the rest are simply stabbed with the screwdriver, so I CAN hunt without it and often do..
If you get good with a screwdriver, you will seldom use a shovel, or a pinpointer, and if you beach hunt with a scoop, of course you dont need one at all...
I can see the benefits of of a quality (Garrett or inline probe) Pinpointer hunting deep targets, but it is sort of hard to justify the payback for shallow clad and jewelry that is so easily and quickly retrieved without it...
One of the most fascinating and ingenious posts regarding Pinpointers was from one of our members, (I cant remember who) travels a lot and stays in a lot of hotels...he takes his Garrett, and checks the PVC drain trap under the sinks in the hotel rooms he stays in for earrings, rings, chains, etc. that might have got lost down in there. He just turns it on and touches the bottom of the trap...Those plastic "P" traps are easily unscrewed by hand..
Mud.
I have an Fpoint, and for my style of hunting (clad/jewelry, screwdriver in the top 5") its perfect...a guy can slip that thin long probe down into a screwdriver hole and sniff around in the grass roots for a coin on edge, ring, or chain! It ONLY buzzes when it is touching metal, so its really good for this kind of thing...I use it maybe once per 200 targets, the rest are simply stabbed with the screwdriver, so I CAN hunt without it and often do..
If you get good with a screwdriver, you will seldom use a shovel, or a pinpointer, and if you beach hunt with a scoop, of course you dont need one at all...
I can see the benefits of of a quality (Garrett or inline probe) Pinpointer hunting deep targets, but it is sort of hard to justify the payback for shallow clad and jewelry that is so easily and quickly retrieved without it...
One of the most fascinating and ingenious posts regarding Pinpointers was from one of our members, (I cant remember who) travels a lot and stays in a lot of hotels...he takes his Garrett, and checks the PVC drain trap under the sinks in the hotel rooms he stays in for earrings, rings, chains, etc. that might have got lost down in there. He just turns it on and touches the bottom of the trap...Those plastic "P" traps are easily unscrewed by hand..
Mud.
nesdore, the TRX is an advanced new pinpointer that I highly recommend but for someone new to the hobby I would say the Pro Pointer.
There's a reason so many people love the Pro Pointer and one advantage it has is simplicity. One button that turns it on and off instantly. When you're new to the hobby, you've got all kind of learning curves - with the detector, retrievals, research, etc. You don't need a learning curve with your pinpointer. Not that it's a long learning curve with the TRX, but I'd still go with the simple and effective Pro Pointer.
I'd definitely suggest avoiding the fragile Chinese made Vulcan 360 like the plague. I wrote about my experience with it in an earlier thread.
Mud, I see you're not a pinpointer guy so I can see where this subject would get old for you. I am a pinpointer guy, I sure hope that doesn't mean you don't like the cut of my jib...
There's a reason so many people love the Pro Pointer and one advantage it has is simplicity. One button that turns it on and off instantly. When you're new to the hobby, you've got all kind of learning curves - with the detector, retrievals, research, etc. You don't need a learning curve with your pinpointer. Not that it's a long learning curve with the TRX, but I'd still go with the simple and effective Pro Pointer.
I'd definitely suggest avoiding the fragile Chinese made Vulcan 360 like the plague. I wrote about my experience with it in an earlier thread.
Mud, I see you're not a pinpointer guy so I can see where this subject would get old for you. I am a pinpointer guy, I sure hope that doesn't mean you don't like the cut of my jib...
sprchng
Well-known member
nesdore, I'd definitely suggest the propointer.
I have two acquaintences that have tried the TRX and both broke the tip. I shudder when I watch them poke and prod around in a hole with the propointers they usually use and I am amazed they haven't broken them also. They don't seem to realize it's for locating not digging--if you're one of those types , the propointer is turning out to be the more durable when subjected to abuse.
I have two acquaintences that have tried the TRX and both broke the tip. I shudder when I watch them poke and prod around in a hole with the propointers they usually use and I am amazed they haven't broken them also. They don't seem to realize it's for locating not digging--if you're one of those types , the propointer is turning out to be the more durable when subjected to abuse.
Thank you for everyones comments I appreciate everyone of them I really love my new hobby and I want to be able to dig and locate my target with ease and leave it looking like it did before I got there. I bought a ace 150 to start with its a good machine just wish I had bought the 250 now lol HH
Get the TRX. It saves so much time in digs with it's ability to see 3 inches pre-dig. One scoop with the shovel or hand digger, and most targets are out. There's really no learning curve with it. The only extra step necessary is an initial ground grab within 3 seconds of power-up, and you're off to the races. The ground grab does not need setting each hole either.
Whatever problems that MAY come up with the TRX down the road, Whites will correct it. So far I love mine, besides the fact it's not as loud as my Garretts. It's pretty much flawless so far.
I will always have a Garretts as a backup though. martin
Whatever problems that MAY come up with the TRX down the road, Whites will correct it. So far I love mine, besides the fact it's not as loud as my Garretts. It's pretty much flawless so far.
I will always have a Garretts as a backup though. martin
MarkCZ
Well-known member
I can't tell you how many of these threads I've seen come across this forum and the results are ALWAYS the same,
The Pro-Pointer wins every time!
And I'm pretty sure that "mud" is the only one that will give a good vote for the China F-Point LoL I had one of them and gave it away and even paid the shipping and I still felt like I ripped the guy off.
Mark
The Pro-Pointer wins every time!
And I'm pretty sure that "mud" is the only one that will give a good vote for the China F-Point LoL I had one of them and gave it away and even paid the shipping and I still felt like I ripped the guy off.
Mark
I've got the Garrett, the Minelab and just recently picked up the White's TRX.
Really liking the TRX so far especially the quick ratcheting down of sensitivity via quick presses to the switch. IMO, what i don't like about it is the button switch and the speaker could be a little louder.
It takes a lot of thumb pressure to operate the push button switch..... with gloves and in a noisy environment sometimes its hard to tell if it turned off or on.
So far it hasn't falsed not once, however when the hot weather finally arrives with more miles put on it will be the real test.
Its got a slight depth edge over the Garrett. Its been promoted to my goto probe for now.
The Garrett is what can i say, the standard all the others are compared to. If it weren't for the random falsing issues, this old work horse would be a worthy contender to the TRX for my goto probe. For now its been demoted to backup status.
My Minelab 'had' the least depth, falsed occasionally but noticeably more stable than the Garrett. However, the last time i used it, it falsed so bad, it was literally useless as a pin pointer, it finally broke. Its on its way to Minelab for a warranty workup. Maybe it was a lemon.
Really liking the TRX so far especially the quick ratcheting down of sensitivity via quick presses to the switch. IMO, what i don't like about it is the button switch and the speaker could be a little louder.
It takes a lot of thumb pressure to operate the push button switch..... with gloves and in a noisy environment sometimes its hard to tell if it turned off or on.
So far it hasn't falsed not once, however when the hot weather finally arrives with more miles put on it will be the real test.
Its got a slight depth edge over the Garrett. Its been promoted to my goto probe for now.
The Garrett is what can i say, the standard all the others are compared to. If it weren't for the random falsing issues, this old work horse would be a worthy contender to the TRX for my goto probe. For now its been demoted to backup status.
My Minelab 'had' the least depth, falsed occasionally but noticeably more stable than the Garrett. However, the last time i used it, it falsed so bad, it was literally useless as a pin pointer, it finally broke. Its on its way to Minelab for a warranty workup. Maybe it was a lemon.
The Sunray inline probes I think are the best,I have used a Vulcan and at this point have no problems.The Garrett(the bench mark) has a little better feel,but the Vulcan adjusted to 4 handles the ground better,which doesn't seem to need to shut off and restart because of falsing.My suggestion don't get any pinpointer cheaper than the Vulcan. Lot of good pinpointers out now Garrett,Minelab,Whites and Vibripro all are great pinpointers I would use any of these and have used both the Garrett and Minelab.Hope this helps
ironsight said:
OOPS! When i published that post i only used the TRX once. After taking another look at the manual
and using it today, the finger pressure to turn off the TRX is actually much less than both the Garrett and Minelab PP'rs. The push button switch needs to be 'lightly' depressed for about a 1/2 second or so to power off. Makes sense, any quick button presses will ratchet down the sensitivity..... while keeping it pressed longer will power it off.
Sorry about that White's. But now i'm really liking the TRX!
I'd still think the audio could be a few decibels louder. Maybe the volume is adjustable?... i'll re-read the manual again!
It does take a little getting use to holding the button down for that partial second when you're used to the quick push and immediate turn off with the Pro Pointer.
ironsight, as I understand it, removing one screw is all it takes to remove the outer TRX case. Unlike the Pro Pointer, the TRX apparently has a seal covering the speaker to protect it which can be removed to make it just as loud as the Pro Pointer. The downside is that then the speaker is more vulnerable to the elements.
Moisture, dirt, mud, etc. have compromised Pro Pointer speakers for me in the past causing a loss of high tone and overall volume.
ironsight, as I understand it, removing one screw is all it takes to remove the outer TRX case. Unlike the Pro Pointer, the TRX apparently has a seal covering the speaker to protect it which can be removed to make it just as loud as the Pro Pointer. The downside is that then the speaker is more vulnerable to the elements.
Moisture, dirt, mud, etc. have compromised Pro Pointer speakers for me in the past causing a loss of high tone and overall volume.
marcomo said:
You're right marcomo, after using both the Garrett and Minelab PP'ers for years..old habits die hard - or - you can't teach an old dog new tricks.
Looks like i'll have to remove: "manuals!...we don't need no stink'n manuals" from my business card!
Also, interesting about removing the case and protective seal to gain more volume. The low volume is only an issue in noisy environments but vibrate mode compensates.