I finally got to spend some time with my new VX3 Saturday at on old homesite that is very trashy, low mineralization, sandy soil. I was hunting primarily in factory c&j mode but occasionaly went to coin mode. RX at 10 most of the time, am sensitivity at 55, disc sensitivity at 75, Occasionaly after gettiong a good repeatable target I would pull the trigger to pinpoint and the machine would just go silent. I would scan the area and find nothing. I would then release the trigger and pull it again and the target would be there loud and clear, usually with other targets nearby. Occasionally the spectragraph would work in pinpoint but not the sound. It would always return after I pulled the trigger a second or third time. Have any experienced this before? What causes It?
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Pinpoint Silence
- Thread starter Gandorf
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Larry (IL)
Well-known member
Be sure to start your pinpoint off to the side of your target. If you pinpoint over your target, you will have the symptoms described.
I've had this nagging experience for the whole 2.5 years of running my V3i. There has almost always nothing found when I decided to dig without audio PP, but did get a penny yesterday when I was showing a veteran with a DFX the scenario. His DFX wasn't picking up the signal even in disc. I have tediously finnesed off-side distance before PP over all this time f ownership without success. Bumped up the AM sensitivity, no help. I will state that there was surrounding trash in all cases. I hope you get an answer that makes sense.
I maybe had some luck running iron tones at 5 with no discrimination at all, finding a surrounding area with no iron reports at all and then swinging PP from there. I find it dicey at best. martin
I maybe had some luck running iron tones at 5 with no discrimination at all, finding a surrounding area with no iron reports at all and then swinging PP from there. I find it dicey at best. martin
Sorry Martin but have yet to have someone post they sent their detector in to Whites and had a problem found with the unit. I have not seen this post ever, " hey guys I sent it in to Whites and now I no longer have the silent pinpoint problem". In all the cases I know it has been user error. Yes if there is a piece of trash where you start your trigger pull it can go silent. Yes if there is a discriminated target under the coil, it can go silent.
Another question concerning the PP tone going silent if trash is under the coil with the repeatable toned good target. The trash will at least pinpoint with tone if the good target drops out, right? If so then does that mean that the methodology of finding the good target is to allow PP of the trash...dig the trash...and then the PP audio for the goot target will appear. If I've done that and still not gotten audio in PP, what's that mean? BTW, I discriminate nothing out, just set unwanted tones to zero or to low tone of 5. Thanks again. martin
Martin I know you have been asking this question since at least 2010, and Fox has been giving you the same answer as me.
Start your trigger pull at a foot from the target over clean ground. Once in a while I have to start the pinpoint in more than one spot. It only takes a second.
My V3I is operating just fine and I can make it go silent if I want. This is not exclusive to the V3I and VX3. I know it happens with the MXT and M6 for sure and they are completely different platforms.
George just went into great detail answering the question again.
I'm not sure about your good signal dropping out, explain it in detail, please. I might be understanding it wrong. If there was a trash and good target under the coil when would this good target drop out?
Start your trigger pull at a foot from the target over clean ground. Once in a while I have to start the pinpoint in more than one spot. It only takes a second.
My V3I is operating just fine and I can make it go silent if I want. This is not exclusive to the V3I and VX3. I know it happens with the MXT and M6 for sure and they are completely different platforms.
George just went into great detail answering the question again.
I'm not sure about your good signal dropping out, explain it in detail, please. I might be understanding it wrong. If there was a trash and good target under the coil when would this good target drop out?
I will re-post this question again for sanity Rob concerning null in PP audio due to trash under the coil close to the good target. From an earlier post, "If so then does that mean that the methodology of finding the good target is to allow PP of the trash...dig the trash...and then the PP audio for the goot target will appear?"
yazoo said:
Does it make sense though that the disc signal picks it up, and then basic AM pinpoint doesn't? PP power sees deeper, correct? No matter what's under the coil, I'd think that PP would sound on whatever the disc picked up, trash or good signal. I discriminate nothing out at all. Can you see my point? martin
Anne said,
When a person pulls the trigger, the first thing the detector does is "grab" the ground reading. This captured ground offset is subtracted from all new readings so that what you hear is the target. So when running over that little bit of ground when pinpointing, ground - ground = 0. No audio change. Now when moving over a target, there is a difference of signal
When a person pulls the trigger, the first thing the detector does is "grab" the ground reading. This captured ground offset is subtracted from all new readings so that what you hear is the target. So when running over that little bit of ground when pinpointing, ground - ground = 0. No audio change. Now when moving over a target, there is a difference of signal
MANDAD76 said:
The recent experiments I have made tells me it is the surrounding junk(shallow/large) targets near or surrounding the displayed, good interesting Vdi-s shown by the V3i. The computer gets fooled when fringe signals mix, producing great silver readings in disc, but no audio right there over the good signal. Moving around in PP from that target report almost always blares out something right next to it. Only way I know of to be sure besides passing the dig up, is to dig the trash and swing again. I was able to disect a 1887 Seated that way. Looked like a mini war zone after digging three junk things, but the silver Vdi for the siver dime came in and I found it. Most times the act of digging the first prevalent trash item, evaporates all signs of the good reports. martin
mgtmadness
Member
I have also got the silence while pinpointing. This happened last night, but what I found was that if I lifted the coil straight up, pinpoint would work.(sound) I didn't dig the targert as it was dark out. I will have to test it out again and dig the target to see what it is when this happens again.
I just want to mention that with every detector I worked it is just happens the same thing. Junks especially cans of refreshments, beers etc are big targets so it happens to overload and even though makes it hard to pinpoint, so I think the guys above have right. In such occasions I release the trigger, raise the coil a bit and then I am pressing the trigger away from the target again for PP. To be honest I like that cause in most occasions if not all this silence happens the target is junk but you never know. So it seems like expensive detectors do not like junks.5900_XL-1 said: