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PI with a meter???

SGTLOWE

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Has Anyone seen a PI machine with a meter? I own a TDI but I struggle with it at times since it is tone only. Due to an IED blast in Iraq I can not hear certian tones. My main machine is a MXT which I do real well with since I can balance the tones with what the meter indicates.

Thanks

John
 
Bummer on the IED.

Thanks for serving!

Jeff
 
John I also have a TDI, if you have trouble with tones set it up to just find coins or just set it to find gold, you should not hear anything else but the one you are looking for. Seems to work well for me. Hope this helps. I do not know of any PIs with meter.
 
I have an idea for meter that would solve yours and many others problem very easily. I will work on it this week and seeif it is viable for me to design and build.
 
Basically an Audio spectrum analyzer meter. Below is a link to kit for the meter....actually this one is assmbled. They have aux in and audio out. So you would plug the Meters Aux in...into the headphone jack....then the audio out from the meter would go to a headphone jack on the meter cae to plug your headphones into. This meter is powered by 9 volts...maybe a 9 volt battery would work..or may have to use a lythium poly for more MAH.
Then you would 'see" the audio response real time. I had thought of this years ago for use on multi tone machines whereby you could see and hearthe audio response. seeing for alot of people helps interpret hearing.
http://www.youritronics.com/shop/20-band-audio-spectrum-analyzer-assembled-p-2.html
and here is a youtube link to the actual meter working..but to music. So...would this sort of audio ID meter do what you wanted?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUh9FV0-DX4&feature=related
 
Also look at the Vibra-Phone 280 from Treasure Products.

azsh07, if you make a plug in meter for a PI, you could market and sell them. Many hard of hearing or deaf people out there, etc. Or just someone who wants a PI meter, period!

I had an intensity meter for my Bounty Hunter III BFO way back in about 1974. So why can't there be an intensity meter for a PI?

Bounty Hunter Forum
bounty hunter III
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?60,634180
 
For years there's been modified jackplugs to plug into all types of detector. Instead of the wire of the headphones coming out the back there's an LED light that glows according to the sound output. They stay on the market for a year or two then disappear for a few years until they get re invented.

Another solution is a windowing signal booster. The version in the picture is adjustable so you can boost volume without getting your head blown off by large objects, amplify faint signals, change tone and sharpen up the audio and also has an LED that glows in intensity according to the output of the detector.
 
Hi Burgess88,

No, the TDI does not have any LCD screen or meter for that matter. The controls are clearly marked so there is no need to have either. Simply set the sensitivity, the delay, and the ground balance and you are ready to hunt. When hunting for gold, usually, the delay is at minimum or 10 usec, the gain or sensitivity is set for mid position or greater, and the ground balance initially set close to 9. The ground balance can then be fine tuned for a minimal ground signal as needed.

This design is simple precise and consistent, thus keeping the cost down while still providing great performance.

Reg
 
THANKS FOR YOUR QUICK REPLY!! I HAVE BEEN TOLD KY IS NOT HIGHLY MINERALIZED, THAT A TDI WOULD NOT WORK AS WELL!! AND KY IS CONSIDERED CLAY AND FAIRLY GOOD GROUND! SO A TDI WOULD WORK BETTER AT A LOW MINERALIZED SOIL,GROUND???????? DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT REG?????
 
I have not hunted in Kentucky so I can't say how it would work.

Generally, in mild ground a very sensitivity VLF will come close to a PI in sensitivity. So, there may not be any advantage to speak of. PI's work better in areas where the ground is bad and depth is lost when trying to use a VLF.

The TDI is being used in your part of the country for relic hunting, mainly CW sites with great success where the ground is bad. There has been quite a few posts regarding the TDI on other forums by relic hunters and the success they are having. Again, the worse the ground, the better the TDI shines.

Now, if you are a long time VLF user, the TDI will be quite uncomfortable at the onset. At least it has been for many people. PI's do not work like VLF's. A PI is temperamental, subject to external noise, are generally noisier than VLF's and don't discriminate anywhere as well as a VLF. In fact, the discrimination feature is primitive by many standards but it does work once a person fully understands how to use it.

Anyone who doesn't have the patience or time to put into learning how a PI works, should probably avoid getting one because it isn't the type of detector a person will learn in a week or two. People who have used PI's will adapt faster, but even then it could take time. A good example is a friend of mine who bought a GS 5 but was disappointed at first because he was also using a more expensive PI also. A year later, he was quite happy with the GS 5 because it would work where his other PI wouldn't and it had features not found on the other PI.

So, whenever possible, one should try one, then ask questions, then try again to see if it might be what you are looking for. For me, the TDI and GS 5 were the cats meow, but I had been operating a different PI prior, so I knew what to expect from a PI standpoint.

Reg
 
1st God Bless you, thank you for your service and welcome home. Call "Nevada Bob" - aka Gary H @ 530-872-7946 He is one of those unsung "heros" of tech that labors with little $$ and a lot of innovation.WARNING ! He TALKS a lot! Kinda like "Bill" did.Luck to you. BTW he has not worked with a Foster unit or TDI , but has sucessfully put a meter on a 2200.
 
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