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Permission to Detect Form
- Thread starter CROCK of COINS
- Start date
Sometimes when you lay a permission to hunt form on someone..It closes the door.
This gets them thinking..and not always in the right direction. A lot of times it is better to just ask for permission,
Sure it's good sometimes, but most people feel threatened by semi Legal jargon.
This gets them thinking..and not always in the right direction. A lot of times it is better to just ask for permission,
Sure it's good sometimes, but most people feel threatened by semi Legal jargon.
Larry (IL)
Well-known member
I have to agree with Elton 100% on that. A sincere thanks and a handshake has worked well for me for almost 30 years. I can see the forms use though in certain situations such as historic privately owned property where the owner is not present and even then a simple "so and so" has my permission to metal detect on my property......-------------------- Signature.
CROCK of COINS
New member
I agree ! ! ! But detector people always ask---Any one have a form-----etc etc etc. So here is a form 
My past work kept me in touch with home owners and real estate people. ;-)
Jerry
My past work kept me in touch with home owners and real estate people. ;-)
Jerry
Andy Sabisch
Active member
Some areas have laws on the books that without written permission you are in hot water . . . . . Georgia for one. Also, if you plan on coming back, having something in writing if you are challenged by the police or even a relative of the person that gave you permission can often mean the difference between a short interruption and your day going downhill real fast.
Larry makes a point that sometimes a legal form will close doors but for more than 40 years, if I plan on coming back in the future, requesting a short note signed by the owner has never had the door closed on me and for the most part, they clearly understand why I am asking for the permission. Saves them getting called to check themselves.
One example is where we had gotten permission to hunt a 40 acre tract near the Kennesaw Battlefield in Georgia. The owner was rarely in the area as he was a Delta pilot flying overseas and we lucked out to find him at the property one day. He gave us permission and when we asked for something in writing and explained why, he had no issues. Two weeks later we were hunting and one of his aunt;s that lived nearby came up and told us to get off the property as there had been relic hunters sneaking in for years. We told he we had permission and she did not believe us until we showed her the note . . . . she read it and drove off. Care to guess what the outcome would have been without the note?
"Times they are a changing" as the saying goes . . . . . my personal position is that if I am hunting a site once, a handshake works fine. If there is anything historical in nature, I start considering getting something in writing. If I plan on hunting it more than once, I always get a note and have yet to be turned down . . . I simply do not whip it out at the start of the conversation. I have shared copies of the forms we use with a number of hunters over the years and they seem to work for them as well . . . . but again, whatever works for you is the best solution.
Looking at the form provided by White's, how can that seem intimidating and encouraging the door to be slammed on someone asking to search the property. Personally, I think the form is well done and I plan to try using it myself. Hats off to White's once again in being proactive to try and keep the hobby alive.
Andy Sabisch
Larry makes a point that sometimes a legal form will close doors but for more than 40 years, if I plan on coming back in the future, requesting a short note signed by the owner has never had the door closed on me and for the most part, they clearly understand why I am asking for the permission. Saves them getting called to check themselves.
One example is where we had gotten permission to hunt a 40 acre tract near the Kennesaw Battlefield in Georgia. The owner was rarely in the area as he was a Delta pilot flying overseas and we lucked out to find him at the property one day. He gave us permission and when we asked for something in writing and explained why, he had no issues. Two weeks later we were hunting and one of his aunt;s that lived nearby came up and told us to get off the property as there had been relic hunters sneaking in for years. We told he we had permission and she did not believe us until we showed her the note . . . . she read it and drove off. Care to guess what the outcome would have been without the note?
"Times they are a changing" as the saying goes . . . . . my personal position is that if I am hunting a site once, a handshake works fine. If there is anything historical in nature, I start considering getting something in writing. If I plan on hunting it more than once, I always get a note and have yet to be turned down . . . I simply do not whip it out at the start of the conversation. I have shared copies of the forms we use with a number of hunters over the years and they seem to work for them as well . . . . but again, whatever works for you is the best solution.
Looking at the form provided by White's, how can that seem intimidating and encouraging the door to be slammed on someone asking to search the property. Personally, I think the form is well done and I plan to try using it myself. Hats off to White's once again in being proactive to try and keep the hobby alive.
Andy Sabisch
Larry (IL)
Well-known member
Great post Andy. I have never been in the position that you have been in, but understand your point.
Jason in TN
New member
That was when we did a club hunt and had about 15 guys hunting a large old farm. Did this to get a liability release for the owner that was the only reason.
Jason
Jason