Outlaw question

[machineman]

I have had my Outlaw for awhile now and it is a great detector. However I feel as though I am missing something. I never use the AM mode and I have no idea what the retune button does, aside from pinpointing use.
Also for GunnerMN. I have noticed you use the 7" widescan coil in most of your videos. Is it your favorite coil? I am looking at getting another coil and that one is high on the list. I would like one for better target separation than the 5.75 CC coil. Great videos by the way thanks.

 

[Habanero]

Something about that 7" coil seems to do well on many of the Tesoros, but from my general observation. I had a 7" older Compadre and wish I had the experience then that I do now; that and actually gotten out to use it. I foolishly sold it because it never got used as I had a DFX at the time and now kick myself. I'm sure wanting another one but think the 5.75 would fit my needs better. I'm wondering if anyone has tried the sniper coil, the 4" on an Outlaw or other Tesoro and how it worked for them too. For my hunting I would probably hardly ever use the all metal mode on an outlaw unless I found myself in an area that was very sparse in targets and needed better depth. Maybe Gunnar or 53 silver can chime in on the retune button, but it seems to "reset or rebalance" the internals of the Outlaw as well as narrow down the field of detection on the pin pointing. I also read that it supposedly will isolate your current target from surrounding targets as well but don't quote me. Sorry if I'm not much help here, but was more or less thinking out loud after reading your questions.

 

[Monte]

Thought I'd just add my personal opinions about search coil selection and the topic of "target separation."

As I am enjoying my 49th year of detecting, I am also enjoying the use of smaller-than-stock search coils the bulk of the time, just as I have favored smaller coils for the bulk of nearly 5 decades. Reflecting back to my first home-built metal/mineral locator, the 8" or so coil was okay but kind of big for the brushy and rocky areas I planned to search. I used do-it-yourself kits until I latched onto my firs factory produced detector in the summer of '68, and it was a White's Ghost Towner BFO with a 5" wooden search coil.

Many of the detectors back in the later '60s and very early '70s were hard-wired and came with either a smaller coil or a larger coil. Even working my Fisher Orion 121 w/11" coil was frustrating because you needed that coil to get reasonable 'depth' compared with anything on the market today by any decent detector maker, but the larger size was a problem in trashier areas. I had another model or two that used a 6" or smaller coil for most of my hunting.

While I still believe an 8" size was the best general purpose coil most manufacturers offered, before they went to 9", 9

 

[GunnarMN]

I do not disagree whith anything Monty said, after all he has been using detectors since i was born , the reason i use the 7" widscan is i have some situations with mineralized ground , and thats when the 7" outshines a concentric , I do regret selling my 5.75" coil as they are exelent in trashy situations and can out perform a 7" DD because you have a long line of detection , whear the 5.75" is like a spot in the ground I find i am not liking the 8.5" widscan as monty said befor its to heavy and about 1" deeper but i use the 7" in the woods as it gets in between the sticks , and the No motion gets deep and a nice broad signal -- now if i was in a trashy park you would be unable to use the no motion at its full power it would just sound off , but if you detuned it in no motion it would probly do good but at that point i would use the threshold and turn down the threshold knobb to make it less sensitive. but around say a tot lot with metal posts I would not use any all metal as you just cant get close to the poles i would use the 5.75 concentric its the best for that kind of hunting in a park i find the retun button not to helpfull because if you are hunting in disc and cant hear an unwated nail and then turn on the pipoint you will probly hear the nails . I took my blisstool into the trashy park and was sorry about it , only dug one quarter should have brought the Outlaw.

 

[machineman]

Thanks for the info. Precise and informitve as usuial. I will be trying your tests but I dont have a smaller dd coild for the outlaw. I really like the 5 3/4" coil on the Outlaw and Compadre. I have not tried the 7" Concentric.