AMC javelin, as far as depth i dont think it would out perform your vistas , I would not say its deep but average depth with the 7" DD i can get a dime at 6" with a good signal with the threshold at 3:00 and gain at 10 and get cherps on the 7" deep dime I can get a much better signal with the 10x12 DD I can hit a gold ring at 8" with the 10x12 DD with a very good signal , its O,K in seperation with the 7" DD but not as good as the vistas I have tried the threshold all metal in the farm feild , and can tell Iron from non Iron as the Iron will start to sound off on the edge of the coil and have a braod sound Wid as with a coin its centering in the Center and is short but as a relic machine i liked the No motion all metal as its very deep and you can move slow in between sticks and then switch to Disc to determine , what it is . it will hit on bottle caps but if you move to the edge they will crackle, and on big Iron you can tell as the center point is bigger and you could switch to threshold and tell right away its somthing big , really its a very versital machine and light I show it in use relic hunting if you go back on this forum some pages you can see it in action Now I really would like to try it on the beach because the No motion would be nice in water because you do not have to swing fast , I have tried other detectors in the water and to get signals on deeper coins you need a faster sweep and it just wears you out trying to swing against the waters drag so to me its worth it just for the no motion , and its no motion has the ability to handle some really badd hot rocks and bricks and see somthing good righ tthru it the outlaw is defenetly a detector to have as one of your tools agine i say its disq mode is average not badd but not better than most. but it has its place with its light weight and nice selection of coils. I am very happy with it .
