[size=x-large]Took the amtrak empire builder from St cloud to portland , the place i was going to stay did not pan out so i turned around and came right back 72 hors riding in coach it was touture, but i did see lots of good things , maybe someday i will get to Oregon and pan some gold , the place is big and extreem i have never seen such huge and tall mountians portland itself is a nice clean town very nice met lots of cool people on the train but I,m back in mini sota a land of gental and lowly hills hope to get back at it broes will keep you posted [/size]