One more Mod on the Lobo

[Keith Southern]

well actually 2 I shortened the cable and belive it or not I got about another inch on airtest depth!.I can get a good zip sound on a nickle around 15 inches now with the brown donut with 36 inch cable.

Also been looking for a way to keep the control box off the ground. I was cleaning the garage yesterday and saw an old toolbox with a very robust plastic handle well after a little measuring on the micrometer I came up with a stand for the machine and again no alterations done to the box I used the belt clip holes and screws so it can be put back to stock if the need ever arises.This thing wont slip over while digging its very stable on the ground with its wide footprint.

No big deal just thought I would share and I will put it to good use till my eye spots something else that I might like better

On a side note I got out with the lobo st on Thursday to a pounded to death house site and I did pull some brass out of there!!Hard to believe it had gotten dead last time in. best find was a complete suspender clip down about 8 inches on edge barely heard it but it did hear it!

Thanks

Keith Southern

 

[Hombre]

Looks good to me Keith

How does a Bandido ll uMax compare to your modded Lobo? I would think that it would be a close race, but then again I have never used a Lobo much. I suggested a buddy of mine to get one and he did. I only set it up for him and run it in his yard for a little while. His has the stock DD coil.............Yours is set up neat!

Randy

 

[ToniSteve]

Hello Keith,
Is there a theory to explain why the shortened cable would allow for more depth? And I wonder if this would be the case for all detectors? Thank you.

 

[Keith Southern]

Ha-Ha..Well I have always been an admirer of the Bandido 2 umax since they came out . I ran one to death in the late 90's with great success !!.

Hers my take on how the compare.The Bandido with it max boost high gain sensitivity is no where near as quite in iron trash as the lobo st.the bandio is a little hotter (not much) on silver and high conductors but really cant compete with the lobo st in low conductor finds.The lobo with its expended disc range is where it really shines.it also runs more quite in the iron since it dosent have the h/g/l/n circuity it has the old type circuitry tesoro became famous for in the original bandidos and silver sabres and such!

I can run mine wide open in disc mode all the time and it allows me to pick out the little small pecky type hits a noisier machine would mask from plain ol random noise.
As much as I love the bandido 2 umax I wouldnt use one after using the lobo st.

Funny thing is back around 97 or 98 I had a lobo st and I was trying so hard to make it run like a bandido 2 umax I gave up on it.Then after another 10 years of experience ( I have 25 years of swinging now) I slowly developed new techniques and hunting styles mainly because of sites producing less and less.Now I am taking advantage of the lobo st expanded disc circuitry and high frequency love of brass.The Lobo isnt the perfect detector but I can take it behind any other detector I have or have used and it will find things and while digging very low amounts of iron type trash.

I will say it again the lobo st audio is second to none if you want to hunt by ear this is the machine.

Stay away from tones and meters .Give me a good ol single tone full range discriminator with an audio that can talk to you.

These new super mega detectors are nice and will find things easily behind most other detectors if you are just running them by the book .But theres no way the latest and greatest digital machines (right now) will outdo an analog detector in the audio aspect of the hunt!.

I know I answered a little more than you asked but for your question I believe the Lobo St Is a step up from the bandido.Even thought he lobo has fixed G.B. in Disc the lobo will see stuff in my ground the bandido wont just because of the expanded disc and a good useable G.B.


Just my take

Keith Southern

 

[Keith Southern]

wanted to lighten the load of having all the cable wrapped around the pole. I never hipmount so thats not an option.when you relic hunt in the woods in briars and such hipmounting is a disaster waiting to happen!

I first noticed that it did increase the sensitivity on a sovereign years ago not much but it did. Why? I dont know. less resistance for the signal to travel? Sort of like a C.B radio does when you have a long cable run on them they get some higher S.W.R's than they do when they have less of a run.

Would I recommend doing it ? Not really I might of just got lucky?you might shorten yours and have worse results.

I really dont know

Thanks For asking

Keith Southern

 

[ToniSteve]

Thanks for the response! I would have top have the factory do it on a Tiger Shark! I wonder if they would?

Best Regards,
Steve

 

[Keith Southern]

Thought I would share where I'm at now with the Mod's

I have used

1=X-Terra 705 upper pole pistol grip and armrest.(feels better to me than the whites)
2=Whites tall man pole pop rivited to a short section of X-Terra 705 middle rod.( Dang whites rod wasnt quite long enough need about 3 more inches)
3=Minelab Sovereign Lower clevis slid into whites fiber rod secured with the original plastic dowel pins from whites clevis setup.
4=Drilled out ear lugs on 8 inch brown donut coil to accept the new style Tesoro coil screw ( these are the best I've seen some sort of carbon fiber bolt and nut)
5=Made a custom aluminum plate to mount all-metal pinpoint switch on.Placed it on top of the X-Terra handrip using the screws and mounting system the X-terra uses.
6=Installed switch. Originally I tried a toggle but changed to push button less dirt can get in! looks nifty too!
7= mounted control box on upper rod with black nylon screw and nut from sovereign coil.I tried the control box in different areas and it balanced the best where I have it plus I can still see the controls just by glancing down.Get the box too far back and it wants to pick the coil up off the ground (manufacturers need to learn this)!
8=made a small slit in batter door(I have an extra door to replace to stock if need be) and ran remote wire from switch in and solder to back of front panel switch.(Just a light solder to hold it. Can be unsoldered if need be and back to stock)
9=Detector stand made from toolbox handle mounted using stock belt clip holes so can be returned to stock also!
10= Shortened the coil cable down to about 36" from 96" seems to have helped the sensitivity some!

There it is nothing fancy but it is what it is and works great for my hunting style.
Know I have the LOBO frankenSTein


Thanks for looking

Keith Southern

 

[Keith Southern]

They might I'm nit sure how a person could get inside the waterproof connector but I see no reason why they wouldnt do it for you.
One phone call will let you know!

Sounds Good

Keith

 

[Hombre]

n/t

 

[silversmith]

Yes, the current in the primary wire of a C.B. will drop the voltage a little, but current in a metal detector coil cable is so small it should cause NO "I squared R" losses at all. Did you notice if the cable wire had a built in shield, or was it just a multi wire cable? If no shield, then the wire wrapped around the metal shaft could cause some loss. The "handle" is cool! When I first it, I thought it was a crankshaft bearing block, off a small engine. MY hats off to you. I love seeing guys dig into their gear. Being not nearly as "ballsey" as you, I think I'll wait till I get a few more miles on my LST before I open the hood!