One More Comment

[desmond]

One more comment and then I'll keep quiet for a whie. Is anyone actually using the Excal 2 on land and finding deep silver, gold etc. I know people on the forum have said the Soverign is the exact machine but not water proofed, but again, just wondering if anyone is using the actual Excal 2 on land? Des in Buffalo

 

[Finderskeeper]

I do. Yes it works great on silver. I use mine on land when not in the water. I had several detectors and sold them all and now only use the Excalibur II 1500....WOT coil. Modified the daylights out of it. Remote pin point switch....home made straight shaft.....Peltor/waterproof ear bud headphones......Doc's Treasure amp for the beach......

I don't need anything else....except maybe a White's TDI PRO for my upcoming trip to Arizona to hunt for gold. Bet it would be awesome for the beaches of Florida too.

 

[dewcon4414]

I wouldnt call the Sov and Xcal the same animal. The Sov has more setting capability and isnt iron disc preset which can afffect depth and ID. Finders..... i guess im used to the Exp. my Xcal would drive me nuts in a park hunting for deep targets. I hunt by tones and the added TID smartscreen is a bonus. Three tones would keep me digging way to much since ive noticed on deep targets the tones change a little more than on the Exp.

Dew

 

[desmond]

Yeah Dew. It's tough but I'll give her more time until I can buy a land machine. Des in Buffalo

 

[Neil]

I wouldnt call the Sov and Xcal the same animal. The Sov has more setting capability and isnt iron disc preset which can afffect depth and ID. Finders..... i guess im used to the Exp. my Xcal would drive me nuts in a park hunting for deep targets. I hunt by tones and the added TID smartscreen is a bonus. Three tones would keep me digging way to much since ive noticed on deep targets the tones change a little more than on the Exp.

Dew

Dew the disc settings on the sov and excal are the same. On the Sov GT and the original you can switch the iron mask off while the excal you cannot do that. both discs start and end at the same point though, those are preset and unchangeable. the sov and excal really are the same animal.

the explorer and etrac both have a wider range of tones but also a wider disc range, and those tones are not as "telling" as the sovs are, the sovs offer up more info.

I fully agree with you, between the sov and explorer I would take the explorer every time for park hunting or really any kind of coin hunting. one reason is the adjustable iron mask on the explorer and another is the expanded ID range on the explorer, the sov will group copper pennys, dimes quarters and most silver right up at the top but as you know the are still distinguishable from each other with the explorer.

 

[synthnut]

Neil ,
There is a slight difference in the circuit when comparing the Excal and the Sovereign .....Not sure what it is yet , but there IS a difference ......It's completely doable when adding an additional audio amp to the Excal when hunting in PinPoint mode , and turning down the Threshold very low as to only hear slight Threshold changes when hunting DEEP targets ....Adding the same audio amp to the Sovereign, and trying to set it up the same way is NOT possible when hunting in Pinpoint mode ....... Something is different in the way things go together ......Many parts of the circuit ARE the same , but there are some differences ....It could be something as simple as how the circuits are wired , or in what order they are wired ....I'm not sure what it is ....Wish I knew .....Hope all is well with you .....Sincerely, Jim

BTW ....Olebeechnut can confirm this ...... He's been experimenting a lot with hotrodding the Excal/Sovereign for beach hunting ......Jim

 

[Neil]

Jim Im no electronics guy so Im guessing here but I think they have tied the target volume into the threshold somehow because on a Sov the volume knob is for target volume but on the excal it is a headphone volume. That would fit in also to how clive describes goldinwaters power system for settings on his excal, Ive tried them on the sov and its a mess to hunt that way but does work well on the excal.

I agree there is a slight difference but it really is slight. tones,disc range,battery system, bbs, threshold in disc, way to many sames to be called a different machine.

Your right oldbeechnut has informed me about the amp not working on the sov. shoot me a PM if you havent read any of clives books, I can send you the excal settings Im referring to and you can try them on your excal and sov and see what I mean.

all is well here Jim Thank God