I have been reading and watching this forum for some time now. A lot of information on the x 70 has been shared. The amount of positive feed back really out weighs the negative responses. I have wanted a minelab for a long time , but the weight was the problem. My friend has the first explorer and I have used it a number of times. He is trying to get me to order the SE. Not interested , I have a X 70 on the way. I did have one Minelab and it was an ok machine , but not for me. It was the Quarto 3D. We have long since parted company. I do believe I have a winner and a keeper on the way. Hope to be posting come hunting time. HH all.