Old Teknetics and Bounty Hunter Coils, Any Help?

[MarkCZ]

I have a Teknetics 8500/B and from all the information I've heard I'm supposed to be able to use the Bounty Hunter coils on it, so I'm thinking about getting one the BH 10".

Now, the BH uses two mounting ears and the Tek use one single ear, I'm guess'in the tek lower stem will fit between the double ears of the BH coil?
Next!
What about the connector plug? the Tek uses a turn & Lock and the BH either just plug in (push in) or uses the threaded ring. How do people get around the different connectors?

Thanks!

Mark

 

[Big Boys Hobbies]

Mark prolly best thing to do would be call Teknetics and ask them. Here is the # 1-800-685-5050.

 

[MarkCZ]

Mark prolly best thing to do would be call Teknetics and ask them. Here is the # 1-800-685-5050.

Well, I'm really doubting that First Texas Teknetics is going to give me much help with my Real Teknetics detector LOL! I mean the only thing about the new Teknetics that is REAL is the name.
But! BUT!!!
if something don't show up here on the forum then I'll sure give that number you gave me a try! something may come of it.

I can also call East Texas detectors, he still works on the older detectors. The only problem with that is the last couple of times me and my brother contacted him the exchange didn't go down to well for some reason, well, we at the time were after information more than we were spending money and we were eating up his time.

I'll keep an eye out here for awhile and then I'll call Teknetics, thanks for the number!
Mark

 

[Dave J.]

Nobody at the present FTP-Fisher company ever had any connection with the "Old Teknetics", so we can't be much help.

I've heard of people adapting current BH production coils to 1980's era BH/Tek machines with some success, but I don't know the details. The connectors in most cases will not be the same in which case it won't be a "just plug it in and see" situation. Besides which, a metal detector can seem to work okay with a searchcoil it's not designed for, but have serious performance deficiencies that are not easily discovered through testing.

There may be someone over on the Geotech forum who can offer some advice.

--Dave J.

 

[MarkCZ]

Thanks Dave,
I do know they'll work! and from what I understand the 10" BH coils work very well, I just never did it so, I've never delt with the connector issue. I also remember that when the early models (first ones) came out that they came with an adapter cable so whites coils could be used on the Tek's.
But, I don't ever remember an adapter for the BH coils.

Mark

 

[Monte]

finding some older issue coils that you need, or locating a good repair technician who knows and works on the older-style detectors. Considering that those models were made roughly a quarter-of-a-century ago, and the parent company has been defunct for about 20 years and technology has changed a great deal, it might be good to find a few bargain-priced search coils. That way you might end up with one that works better than another or is, as they might say, "in spec" with the required design performance.

I have a Teknetics 8500/B and from all the information I've heard I'm supposed to be able to use the Bounty Hunter coils on it, so I'm thinking about getting one the BH 10".

Remember, too, that the Bounty Hunter models that were referred to as sharing search coils were those designed to also operate at 6.59 kHz and be compatible. The Bounty Hunter coils for earlier BH models didn't work, and the Bounty Hunter models of today probably won't either. Different operating frequencies and design.

The original Teknetics was started by a group of guys who had worked up the road in Sweet Home, Oregon and landed their facility in Lebanon, Oregon. The White's models of the time were operating at 6.592 kHz and had a solid following. The Teknetics designs used the same operating frequency and ample similarities that they could share search coils, with an adapter. They needed a larger size search coil, and a lower priced detector to sell since they only marketed the newer and higher-priced CoinComputers.

Who had a larger coil that operated at 6.59 kHz and was available? Bounty Hunter. They bought them out and then could make the 10" coils for their Teknetics models that had a 7

 

[SkiWhiz]

I just got a Bounty Hunter Select 220, it came with a Bounty Hunter 10" coil ("push in" connector), seems to work well. For the type of hunting I do the 10" coil is alittle too big. I called Keith (East Texas detectors) and was informed that I could get a 7.25" or a 8" coil for my Select 220. I opted for the 7.25" as it is alot lighter weight and from what I hear just as deep (or deeper) than the 8" coil. I have not received the coil yet but am curious as to how it will perform. Steve.

For the record Keith (East Texas detectors) is a really nice guy as most of us that has been in the hobby for along time knows. Some folks think that he is alittle expensive and slow at times. We have to take into consideration how busy he is, there are very few people repairing and stocking parts for the older detectors. We are very lucky to have Keith & people like him in the hobby, without them we would be sol if we ever have to have our vintage detectors fixed. My Select 220 came with the wrong meter lens cover, I called Keith and he had one for me, I wouldn't be surprised if he stocks hens teeth, lol.

 

[MarkCZ]

Well my 8500 isn't broken! It works just fine nor does it have a coil problem!
I've delt with Keith at East Texas Detectors a few times already, he was the one that gave me the bounty hunter coil idea.

What I was doing was considering getting a larger coil for the 8500 (extra coil) So I was researching what all would be involved in adapting the 10" BH coil to the detector.

Also, the Tek 8500 isn't my first old Teknetics, I've owned a 9000/B when they were NEW! I've also owned a Mark I as well, I got it just after the old Teknetics company went belly up.

I've found a white 10" spider coil with an 8' cable and the Teknetics turn&lock connector (It must be for a Big Bud) and I'm pretty sure it will work. But at $70.00 dollars I'm not sure I'm that interested in the upgrade??

The only problem my 8500 has is ONE battery end clip, that's one of the ones that is wired to the detector electronics, so the case has to be opened up to replace it, I already have a COMPLETE replacement set of the clips I've just not installed them yet. I've got a tiny piece of foil flashing between the battery end and the legs of the broken clip, so the detectors WORKS! But I'm having second thoughts about putting the extra cash in the unit!
I've spent a lot money on detectors in the past few months maybe more than I should have.
I had a neighbor give me a Fisher 1266,
I bought a Whites 5900/Di Pro sl
I've got a Fisher CZ-7a Pro that I got to replace my old Tek 9000 when the display went bad.
Bought a Fisher coinstrike sense last fall,
Bought a Bounty Hunter Land Star but got rid of that REAL QUICK! (broke even)
Got a new Fisher F2
And, I've only had the Teknetics 8500 sense last summer! (this came around I guess because I never got over the thinking that my old 9000 was the best detector ever built and I thought I could regain that with an analog version) I really wanted an Eagle, but I couldn't find one! after all that I've had to come to my senses and realize that Teknetics is GONE! and they are not coming back! well nothing but the name. Man I hate that, what a company! oh, well life goes on.

Thanks for the replies
Mark

 

[K Wills]

Mark, the Bounty Hunter coils will work on your Teknetics as will the older Whites 5000Di and 6000Di coils with an adaptor and we make those adaptors here. We can make most every type adaptor from Whites coil to use on BH or Tek units to adaptors to use BH and Tek coils on Whites units of that period.

The single ear type coil was solved years ago by Tek, because it was so easy to break that single ear, they started building double ear coils like they use today. The split type Isolator plastic tip that fits into the rectaingle type rods of the Teknetic was also changed back then to fit into the double ear coils with an Isolator plastic tip with no split (I have these in stock), of course this will require a longer coil bolt with a double ear coil, but an older Whites coil bolt works perfectly and we have those too.

As for the coil connector, you can simply use the push-in type BH connector on their coils today and it will fit the female end of the Tek twist-loc type connector on your unit. We still install the Tek. type twist-loc connector onto folks BH or Whites coils if they wish.

We still service Tek, BH and all brands of detectors except Minelab here. Our goal is to keep those favorite detectors operating for hunters as long as possible and as trouble free as possible. We will not service any detector without going completely thru it front to back, hundreds of folks have really appreciated that effort on our part--we call preventive maintanence.

As for some not getting their unit service they send us when they expected it (I noticed in your replys); there are a few reasons they have failed to think of. You can not find any help or hire help that has experience in metal detector circuits and by the time I train someone to fix a detector, I could of done the repair to it faster myself--folks just don't seem to understand this. Also consider that we are dealing with older detectors where parts are nearly non-existant, which forces me to spend 2 to 3 days every week tracking down rare parts to fix someone's older unit.

As for time, I have no time! You consider I now recieve some 10 to 20 phone calls a day (not considering how many emails I get and answer a week). I just can't repair other folks detectors if I spend all my time talking to all that many folks everyday on the phone. I'm real sorry about that, for I love to speak with other th'ers across the country, but it's just impossible.

I hope some of this has helped you understand better things and parts available today. If I can help anymore, please contact me. My website is: www.brokendetector.com

Sincerely, Keith Wills, owner East Texas Metal Detectors

We are here to help folks that need our service, we bend over backwards to do just that.

 

[Crazy-Texican]

I have a teknetics Mark 3 with hip mount kit and use the followimg coils along with the teknetics coil of course . I use the BH 10" coil with standard non twist plug , whites coil off a 5000d , garrett 5.5khz co-planar ( not as good but does work) , the garrett and whites coils do require an adaptor tho. I also use the same coils on my garrett master hunter ADS .
I have used the stock 8" BH coil and the 4" nugget coil as well .

 

[Woodstock]

Keith is the master and he is 100% correct. I have a Tek 8500 and the 10" BH coil works great. I just push it in and it's ready to go. And if I ever have any issues with the older Tek's Keith is the man to see! Happy Trails, Woodstock

 

[MIssouri Secessionist]

I'm slow, but eventually, I catch on. When I first read your post, I thought that you said that you planned to purchase the Bounty Hunter 10, Red Baron 10. I was going to strongly recommend against that, having made the mistake of trading my RB-7 for a "all new, auto ground balancing RB-10." Okay, I am going to take a nap now.