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Old Golden Saber
- Thread starter rqlt29a
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Take them both and try them side by side. Then you can discovere for your self. I discovered that my two detectors react very different to iron or when iron is present. One is easier to know when the target is foil or pull tabs.
Bottom line is which suits you best.
Hope you have many good finds on your outting
david in AR
Bottom line is which suits you best.
Hope you have many good finds on your outting
david in AR
such as a blasting audio if you're using the speaker, and long battery life on those AA batteries. I also like the white 8" coil to the latter brown coil because they were lighter weight and felt better. IF, and I say IF you are hunting in a "trashy park" with such an abundance of pull tabs that it drives you nuts, you can use the Golden Sabre's notch reject circuitry to eliminate a good number of them and still get gold jewelry and other targets between those tabs and the lower Disc. setting.
Now, having said all that let's look at other performance differences. The Vaquero is lighter weight. The Vaquero has a true momentary All Metal Pinpoint mode that can be valuable in isolating targets for recovery. If the trash level is higher-conductive modern day trash, both models might be set for similar rejection. However, if the 'trash' you're dealing with is iron, such as nails, the Vaquero does' adjust lower than the Golden Sabre and will let you fine-tune the rejection of iron. The Golden Sabre has too much rejection (too much bias) against iron at the minimum setting and can experience more target masking than the Vaquero.
With either of them, you would be better served to use a smaller coil in the 5
Now, having said all that let's look at other performance differences. The Vaquero is lighter weight. The Vaquero has a true momentary All Metal Pinpoint mode that can be valuable in isolating targets for recovery. If the trash level is higher-conductive modern day trash, both models might be set for similar rejection. However, if the 'trash' you're dealing with is iron, such as nails, the Vaquero does' adjust lower than the Golden Sabre and will let you fine-tune the rejection of iron. The Golden Sabre has too much rejection (too much bias) against iron at the minimum setting and can experience more target masking than the Vaquero.
With either of them, you would be better served to use a smaller coil in the 5
than my Quick Draw II or the Garrett GHTAx 500 I just sold on Ebay. I kept the QD II because it's a coin magnet from clads on up.
With the Garrett and the bounty hunter, I can't tell the difference between foil, pull tabs, nickels.
Here's how I do it with the Cibola: Hunt with discriminator all the way down. Find a target. Listen for the loud extra crisp sound aluminum makes ( a little smother for pull tabs ) when not too deep ( say 4" or less, maby 3" ). Now I can thumb my discriminator knob to find the break up or knock out point. Compare that to the sound. Do they both indicate aluminum or pull tab?
Next I can turn my threshold down and pass coil over it again which gives me more information pertaining to depth, size, density, ect.
When I turn the threshold down I automatically stop it at the threshold point because I know where it is. Now I'm ready to push the pin point button, not to pin point but to scan in threshold based non motion all metal mode. That tells me info on size, depth and things around the target that may have an effect. For instance, Is it long? Is it wide? Does it have more than one part? If it's aluminum that's not too deep it screams in AM.
There's more to it but that's a start.,
Small aluminum that's deep ( say past 4" approx ) can sound just like a good target. But as as I remove dirt and don't find target when I think I should and the signal starts sounding like aluminum, it usually is and I usually go ahead and dig it at this point if I can't make a positive ID.
Aluminum cans are long and wide. They scream at me. I can not discriminate them out completely. I seldom dig one now with my Cibola. They are obvious.
Aluminum is found in so many shapes, sizes and thicknesses it may never become possible to ID it all. But Cibola, my first and only Tesoro does a good job as far as I'm concerned. I can work with that
I hope this helps, hope I didn't go over board.
Good hunting
With the Garrett and the bounty hunter, I can't tell the difference between foil, pull tabs, nickels.
Here's how I do it with the Cibola: Hunt with discriminator all the way down. Find a target. Listen for the loud extra crisp sound aluminum makes ( a little smother for pull tabs ) when not too deep ( say 4" or less, maby 3" ). Now I can thumb my discriminator knob to find the break up or knock out point. Compare that to the sound. Do they both indicate aluminum or pull tab?
Next I can turn my threshold down and pass coil over it again which gives me more information pertaining to depth, size, density, ect.
When I turn the threshold down I automatically stop it at the threshold point because I know where it is. Now I'm ready to push the pin point button, not to pin point but to scan in threshold based non motion all metal mode. That tells me info on size, depth and things around the target that may have an effect. For instance, Is it long? Is it wide? Does it have more than one part? If it's aluminum that's not too deep it screams in AM.
There's more to it but that's a start.,
Small aluminum that's deep ( say past 4" approx ) can sound just like a good target. But as as I remove dirt and don't find target when I think I should and the signal starts sounding like aluminum, it usually is and I usually go ahead and dig it at this point if I can't make a positive ID.
Aluminum cans are long and wide. They scream at me. I can not discriminate them out completely. I seldom dig one now with my Cibola. They are obvious.
Aluminum is found in so many shapes, sizes and thicknesses it may never become possible to ID it all. But Cibola, my first and only Tesoro does a good job as far as I'm concerned. I can work with that
I hope this helps, hope I didn't go over board.
Good hunting
Uncle Willy
New member
I owned several Goldens over the years and they worked great in trash. If you set the notch right you can disc out tabs and still get the good stuff.
Bill
Bill