Old beach hunt

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[/img] Made it out for a morning hunt at a very old beach coins were DEEP had to run the 6 inch coil way to much iron .My sensitivity was set at 28 ferrous coin open screen had to hear the iron or it was a total null .The soil was 2 inches of black dirt the soil under it was black sand beach sand .
All coins came in at 8 to 10 inches the 2 Indians were pin pointer deep 10 inches wonder what I'm missing wish I could run the stock coil but no go just to much crap .All signals were border line for the 6 they were choppy coming in and out (but repeated in the same place ) key to finding them without digging all the iron did dig some bent nails not many they just did not sound the same as the coins .

Only covered a 20 by 20 area way more to do sun came out to hot to detect also I was having to much iron na na na na na needed a break this is a spot you have to take your time or you well not hear a thing that sounds good . ! silver but there's more and it's deep also dug 6 nickels and only 3 tabs good average .

The nickels I dug were crappy signals 12.09 to 12.30 back and forth on the 12 line when I would get this type of signal I found out if I centered the nickel and wiggled it would throw a 12.13 or 12.14 hardly any coil movement to much and it would be all over there's just to much iron .

Well try tomorrow again hope you guys got out . sube

 

[trojdor]

Looks awesome, sube

 

[Mike K (Ohio)]

Looks like a good day! I would be going back as well

 

[IDXMonster]

Sh*t,if you don’t go back tell me where it is! Astounding how deep those little FBS coils are. I initially sold my first 6” coil and then realized that was just stupid so I’ve since bought another. I tried hunting today and it was just too brutal. Between the heat and bugs...forget about it. Nice work Sube!

 

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A little story about this hunt . We get there at 6am start detecting my friend says where going to get kick out just a matter of time about a half hour later the lady across the street comes out and walks by giving use the stink eye my friend says she's going to call the parks office sure enough 10 minutes later a park employee shows up she says that is not allowed here. She says what we are doing is illegal and I say I have been detecting here for 50 years when did it become illegal she says last year. I point to the park rules sign and say there's noting saying I can't detect here.

Then she says I'm just the messenger but you can talk to my boss but he's not there so I say to my friend I'm going to call the parks department we already got booted what do we have to loose . So I call them up and ask if there is a ordinance against metal detecting he says he would check into it so I get a call and he leaves a voice mail stating that there is no law and that I can detect there whenever I want to and all the other parks in the county . He
says to just stay away from the Indian mounds Which are just mounds of dirt with nothing in them they were for ceremony's not Indian graves .

So the next day we get there at 6 am we decide to hunt in the shade at a different part of the park hour later we see two green park rangers coming toward us I mention to my friend it looks like Simon and Garfunkel one was 6.6 and the other guy was short like the detectorist show . I go this is going to be good any way it was the guy that left me the message on my phone asking if I got the message I said yes and a little chit chat saying he was going to inform the park employee's .So back to detecting my friend says we should go back where we were going to look because it had some shade I go let's go.

So we start detecting and the lady that gave us the stink eye comes out of her house and See's us my friend says the rangers are going to be coming 10 minutes later one confronts my friend the ranger says you can't be doing that he says yes I can the ranger says you can't metal detect here my friend replies yes I can then the ranger says OK and leaves apparently he did not get the message yet .

The park boss apparently just did not like people detecting in his park my friend had been kick out twice in the last year and did not want to go back when I mention that we should give the lake a try .

I forgot to mention in my post my friend was using the NOX with the stock coil and found a barber dime Indian and some wheat's . sube

 

[LTimedigger]

Man we have too many busybodies walking around these days. In most states unless the park is a designated historical site, MDing is tolerated. One year a friendly ranger informed a buddy and me we would have to stop hunting in the water at a state park because the cabins dated back to the WPA era so we complied even though its ok to fish. But back to the hunt, when you run the 6" in a trashy area what reactivity setting do you use? I use both fast and deep and the gain high if conditions allow. My theory is that the 6 being a DD coil you don't lose a whole lot of depth like this compared to the stock. Is this flawed thinking? Seems like I remember you use "seawater" to sometimes. Thanks Paul

 

[IDXMonster]

Some people are old nasty turds and just need to be flushed. That stupid wench has NOTHING better to do than stick her old withered up nasty beak where it shouldn’t be? Some people just need to be punched. It’s not just about detecting, it’s about some dipsh*t thinking their only remaining station in life is to make others as miserable as they appear to be. If you see her again tell her to do the world a favor and DROP DEAD. You’ll NEVER get these idiots on your side so going on the offensive doesn’t change a thing, and for ONCE....those doing nothing wrong actually get to walk away with some self respect. The LAST thing I’m EVER going to do is to explain myself to someone who starts THAT kind of horsesh*t.
Dane County has a permitting system, I have a permit. 2 years ago I was at one of said parks and the main ranger came by. He already knew who I was so he just coasted on through. A half hour later, a temp “summer ranger kid” came by in a golf cart and said I couldn’t detect. I looked at him over my glasses and said,”Do you know this for sure”?....knowing full well he didn’t. I helped him through his silence by telling him about the permitting system and that Ranger Brian already had it under control. Just another example of someone coming up and doing too much assuming.
Three years ago this coming Thanksgiving Day I had just started detecting a village park I had gotten permission for from the public works director. Some fairy comes floating along in his girlie convertible with his wife and hops about and almost RUNS over to me, all along the way almost shouting that I couldn’t detect there. This is what I mean...these dipsh*ts have no idea who I am or what I’m going to do. For all anyone knows I could pull a gun and put a hole in his forehead. You’re going to take that chance over a metal detector? I asked him,”Do you work for the village”? He says, “Well, I used to but I’m retired”. That kinda explains it, he has nothing better to do. I stated I had WRITTEN permission in the form of an email from the public works director to detect this park. He instantly and forlornly sank into a near silence, and then said HE had asked to detect it and was told NO. I thought to myself,”Hmmmm. This guy is such a TOOL his ex-boss wouldn’t even let him in”. Nuff said. I’ve since found over 30 silvers in that park dating back to the late 1890s. The ol’ douchemaster got NONE. You know why? Cuz he’s a DOUCHE, just like the rest of these wannabe sheriffs running around like they have some kind of authority over the rest of us. HOW people think like this,I’ll never know. In this world we live in, unless whatever someone is doing is affecting me or my family DIRECTLY....I’m not concerning myself with it. I just have better things to do...like go find a place to detect, unmolested and un-scrutinized by the neighborhood watch made up of people who SUCK.

 

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I always use fast and keep sense at 28 to 30 deep on only slows the detector down when your gain is 30 or 28 all targets report with the same strength no need for deep in fact deep will cause more clipped signals than fast in trashy areas the machine has not enough time to sample the target before the next one giving poorer ID and even crappier signals .

I use seawater when I can't get the machine to settle down to the sense #s I want to run . As far as using fast on I have never had a problem with clipped signals (speed of coil comes into play here) swing fast clipped signal slow sweep not clipped. If you have problems with clipped signals iron falses and feel your overwhelmed in thick iron then you don't have a full grasp of the machine yet .

I also have my user button set the same except I have long for audio this aids in telling me if it's short iron 1 inch and under these do repeat in the same place just like coins but long well give you your double grunt on the nail or short iron making me skip from digging a worthless hole compared to normal for audio .sube

 

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IDX I don't think you would have wanted to punch this 350 lb (babe) she had a face that looked like gravel which made the stink eye worse if you hit her and see fell on you your detecting days would be over lol .sube

 

[IDXMonster]

IDX I don't think you would have wanted to punch this 350 lb (babe) she had a face that looked like gravel which made the stink eye worse if you hit her and see fell on you your detecting days would be over lol .sube

LOL! She was cute too huh? Sweet.....

I have ALSO found....FAST ON tends to be a BENEFIT with CLEANER signals than “DEEP”. As long as GAIN is already pegged, or close to it(if you’re gonna run 28 you might as well run 30) DEEP isn’t adding much,IMO. In fact, it lengthens signals just as you described and “slurs” the response, and the second signal can’t get a fair shake. In FACT....I have an 8” Merc in my yard that I just buried to test the Equinox. Checking the signal with the CTX and stock coil, I get a MARKEDLY BETTER signal response with FAST ON. My buddy Dewsweeper uses an eTrac and also always runs FAST ON for this very reason. I also use it with my Explorer. Do I do it to fly in the face of convention or to be “different”? NO. I do it because it WORKS for trashy turf hunting situations, and in the end, results don’t lie. An out of the way farm field where target density isn’t a concern for the most part....then yes, perhaps DEEP ON will have a benefit, especially if GAIN is not maxxed.
I’ll have to work with “Seawater” more. Certain people have said it can mitigate specific types of EMI and negative effects of soil conditions. I just haven’t played with it much to have any repeatable results either way....

 

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IDX said I’ll have to work with “Seawater” more. Certain people have said it can mitigate specific types of EMI and negative effects of soil conditions. I just haven’t played with it much to have any repeatable results either way....

IDX I have played with deep signals with seawater on and off the difference is when I can't get my sense up high because of ground noise or emi that seawater is a benefit it makes crappy signals sound better less noise better in the sense of knowing what's down there . If I get a questionable signal that I might dig that comes in better with seawater ,this is checking the signal with seawater not turn on and turned on then I will run seawater if it does not clean up the signal then I run it without seawater. Seawater also has another advantage of being able to run your sweep speed faster than without this in itself cleans up a lot of questionable signals .

So run your regular pattern and have your user button set with seawater on to check targets to see if there's a change better or the same .My CTX wanted to run at 26 in auto at this spot I thought it was good enough but after cross checking from auto to manual 28 auto would only hit 2 of the coins at 8 inches and did not touch the 10 inch Indians manual 28 was consistently showing 12 inches deep on the depth meter and auto was showing about 8 these are small iron pieces .
So auto did not have the punch I needed to get the deeper coins but there's a trade off auto runs smooth and manual runs sparky it's not ground noise in manual your hearing it's just that it See's more targets making you think your running to hot when you actually are not.

One other point if the CTX hit's on a coin it is hard to loose it where as iron is much easier to loose by different coil angles . sube

 

[IDXMonster]

Ok, I’ll play with it and report back, thanks!

 

[LTimedigger]

Thanks Sube have had the ctx several years and the response settings is only thing that has caused me some confusion. IDX the speech police are gonna come in the night for you(hehe). Maybe its because I live in the South but I've just not had a lot of problems from employees. I've even had some show me some out of the way spots one being an old dump. Another guy who was the superintendent for an old park and zoo told me he wished he could let me work one old spot but it was closed to the public now. I did have an old lady school teacher once who didnt think who payed her salary call the cops on me. He wasnt happy about his assignment and we talked MDing for an hour cuz he was looking for a stress reliever. Best.

 

[Atlas]

Thanks for the report Sube,

I may have to try fast and ferrous coins in a few of my black sand blanketed beaches. With ground coin and the bottom Fe line rejected out (mostly open but not quite) i get a total null situation. I usually run ground coin with normal recovery and smooth.

HH