Oh man I finally done dit it again :stars:

[Sven]

I love the M4/3 Olympus cameras.
Had the E-PL1, PL3, PL5 which are all 2 axis IBIS camera stabilization.
As many owners stated doesn't seem to really do much for hand held picture taking.
I usually have mine turned off....................
Now the E-PL7 has 3 axis which owners say helps out a lot and the PL7 is a big upgrade from the PL5.
Had a tough decision on whether to get the E-PL7 or the Oly OM-D M10-1.
Each has its pluses and minus with basically similar picture quality.
On the M4/3 forum, 75% said get the M10 and 25% said get the PL7 for various reasons.
Almost pulled the trigger on a new black body E-PL7 until I came across slightly used M10 black body
for $100 less. So that's what I have coming. If I don't like it, could always sell it for more and get a PL7.
Just have to see what all the fuss is about.

Anyone interested in the Oly cameras should check out Robin Wong's site, lots of other great useful info there as well.
https://robinwong.blogspot.ca/

By the way there was no E-PL4 model, The Japanese are superstitious, Traditionally, 4 is unlucky because it is sometimes pronounced shi, which is the word for death. Sometimes levels or rooms with 4 don't exist in hospitals or hotels. When giving gifts such as plates, they are normally in sets of three or five, never four. They do have an E-PL6 but, its more of an E-PL5 for the Japanese market.

 

[fmurphy]

Look forward to seeing your photos.....

 

[Mega]

Sven,thats a serious piece of kit mate,you certainly like your expensive toys

 

[Kelley (Texas)]

Will you be using any vintage lenses with the camera? Thanks for sharing. Kelley (Texas)

 

[Kelley (Texas)]

I read the information about the vintage Olympus Camedia C-8080 Wide Zoom, and the amazing pictures produced from it. Thanks for sharing, most enjoyable reading. Kelley (Texas)

 

[Sven]

Will you be using any vintage lenses with the camera? Thanks for sharing. Kelley (Texas)

I have in the past on the E-PL1 & 3 but, most lens you could buy cheap were OK. Now days just considered poor quality glass compared to current glass.
The high end glass of yester year at one point could be bought cheap $5-10, until everyone found you can adapt them to M 4/3 cameras. Now your spending $50-1000 plus.
Folks like to experiment with vintage 35mm glass as its still cheaper than buying a Prime digital lens which some are designated as Pro lenses-your paying average $300-$3500 for.
A good reason to buy and try some very high end glass from way back when..................................much cheaper.


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"When I got the EP1 two years ago, I began looking into some older Leica M glass to go on it. At that time, I settled on the Summicron 90 F2, which KEH listed several examples in the $400-600 range. Unfortunately, I never got around to buying one.
Just checked the other day, and the only one they had was $1k. Ouch! It's these darn mirrorless people, driving the price up.
So, yes, stop buying legacy glass, specifically older Leica M. You're making it expensive."
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Not all vintage glass gives good results. There is a list now of what works great and those that don't. Which also drove the prices up. I had a lot of vintage mint condition glass here that I paid for with a week of wages each back in the 70's-80's, not on the list of working glass. Some I couldn't sell for more than $5-10 this year on ebay.

Biggest drawback for me was weight and size compared to the digital camera lenses. Some of the really heavy zoom lenses could add a lot of stress onto a M4/3 camera mount. Some old lenses also a pain to manual focus, especially a zoom lens. If your digital camera had focus peaking option, it made focusing easier.

I found the kit lenses that originally came with the Olympus cameras that I have used, work excellent to a point. Fast focusing and usually pretty sharp with detail. Lit lenses I have are 12-50mm zoom, 40-150mm zoom. Being M 4/3 lenses the 12-50mm is equal to a 35mm film format camera lens of 24-100mm, the 40-150mm equal to 80-300mm. I also have a Prime lens 60mm macro.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Four_Thirds_system
http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/first-micro-four-thirds-lenses-you-should-buy/
http://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/24084/is-it-practical-and-worthwhile-to-fit-old-slr-lenses-to-mirrorless-digital-camer

If you have old 35mm lenses hanging around, worth trying them. You will have to buy lens adapter(s). There are cheap ones $10-20 or expensive ones $30-80 each and up. Some adapters better than others.
You may come up with a winning combination of old lenses....................http://briansmith.com/sony-a7-a7r-lens-mount-adapters-2/

There's a lot of info about adapted lenses on the M4/3 forum https://www.mu-43.com/forums/adapted-lenses.40/

There are many really smaller (than standard 50mm) old camera lenses that work with M4/3 cameras as well.

Right now don't have my sites on any other lenses except one Prime lens 25mm f1.8. Were a selling used to new on ebay for $150-215 until middle of June. Then camera season swung into full gear, prices
jumped to $240 used to $300 new. Will probably wait until fall/winter time when prices drop again. The 25mm f3.5-6.5 range on my 12-50mm zoom lens will have to do for now.

 

[Kelley (Texas)]

I happen to be one of those mirrorless lens folks in that I use a Sony NEX-6 camera that I bought in used condition on eBay. I participate in our hobby on a budget and only use old, vintage lenses and gear. Like you, I have also noticed the prices slowly creeping upwards, guess it is due to the old supply and demand factor. In regards to comparing the quality of vintage lenses with modern made lenses, I have found that many of the vintage lenses will often produce a nice picture every bit equal to modern made lenses. Kelley (Texas)

 

[BJ in Okla.]

I have a Sony NEX 5 T camera with a Nikon and Minolta adaptor,
I have been thinking of buying a couple more adaptors, so I will have more lens to pick from..
These are neat little cameras...
Fred,, did you know that my Nikon D 7000 has a Sony made Sensor ??
Same sensor as your Sony NEX 6,, so I have been told..
BJ

 

[Sven]

n/t

 

[BJ in Okla.]

If I under stand right, with your new camera, and old lens, the crop factor, is like X2 ??
So if you use a older 100mm lens, it becomes a 200mm lens, right ??
Also, because of the smaller sensor, you get more depth of field, right ??
BJ

 

[Sven]

If I under stand right, with your new camera, and old lens, the crop factor, is like X2 ??
So if you use a older 100mm lens, it becomes a 200mm lens, right ??

Yes to the above.


Also, because of the smaller sensor, you get more depth of field, right ??
BJ

Never thought about that or looked into that much as I didn't find much satisfaction using the old lenses I tried.
So I stuck to the kit and prime lenses. Do recall reading something about the f stop opening needing to be closed down some.
As too much of light /image size hitting the sensor was larger than the sensor and bounce around. So I guess if you have to use a higher f stop the image would be sharper.
With the digital lenses there seems to be a sweet spot were the pictures looks the best before the pictures degrades in one fashion or another.
With my 60mm prime, they say the sweet spot is f5.6.
Found this site has some pretty interesting stuff on it http://www.photokaboom.com/photography/learn/tips/037d_dof_sensor_size.htm

 

[BJ in Okla.]

I under stand what your saying, and it makes since..
The Nikon J 1 camera has a smaller sensor than your camera, and can only use those lens made for the Nikon J 1 camera..
There are some many trade offs...
Here is a chart that I found on the net, that kind of goes with your link...
BJ