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Now getting more depth on those Canadian Clad Coins:canadaflag:

Sven

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And here's my latest experimenting on getting those deeper on edge Canadian clads:

Posted this on the Canadian Forum:

Was tinkering around with my Eldorado umax and noticing that when properly ground balanced the Eldo picks up Ca clad on edge in all metal with no problem. But, in disc, there is a loss in depth and or they are discriminated out unless you drop the disc setting lower than anyone likes.....

Tinkering I found I can get increased depth in both modes on those coins on edge. With a few adjustments the Eldo will pick up a coin on edge as strong as lying flat.

The key factor is your threshold setting. If you set the threshold for the normal, slight sound and ground balance normally, sensitivity 5 to 10. You are now using and tuning the Eldo per the users manual. No worries for US hunter but, not optimum for modern Canadian claddage.

Here's the trick, ground balance like you would normally, then it's time to reset your threshold. You need to pay attention to your threshold sound. There are two thresholds, one I will call your obvious one you will hear while tuning and then there's one I will call the sub threshold. You will hear the under lying tone that is a very very faint buzzing sound. You can only hear it when you back off the threshold knob very slowly to the point the regular threshold goes silent. I remember reading something about the sub threshold years ago by those experienced in using the Tejon for relic hunting in the US getting better depth. Anyway, once the threshold is backed off until you hear the sub threshold, do an air test. You might see that you get the results I do, an inch or so increase in all metal depth of the clad on edge or flat with no loss of depth. Then switch to disc. mode and you'll find you get the same results with no loss of depth over all metal mode. The clad will now hit harder, at depth compared to silver coins. I'll venture to guess this will work with all Tesoro umax units that have threshold control and manual ground balance that ties in with all metal mode and disc. mode.

Now here are my other settings that you can try after tuning like the above method:
Sensitivity 5-10 usual, better depth in boost zone if you can run it that high.
Disc. setting just above iron, set disc control so a clad dime is still detected on edge as lying flat.
If your bold enough, try hunting with zero disc, wire and nails should give a double blip.


Hope this helps you Canuk Eldo umax owners, which is a great detector for hunting here in Canada to begin with.
 
hey sven, is your eldo modern or old school big box like mine? you know GA where i live. Mexican clad starting to show up. i m going to test my old canadien coins i got as kid and see vs US clad in the near future, vs meican coins.
 
I don't have the Eldorado but I have the Vaquero and I will give it a try as I like you have noticed a lost in depth when going from AM mode to discrimination mode. Most of my hunting is AM via the red pinpoint button but when going into discrimination, releasing the button, I will loose what I thought was a good signal. I will have to train my ears for the sub signal.
Thanks for posting for us Canadian's eh.:canadaflag:

Minas man
 
How's it going......
I have the Eldo umax, small box.
It wouldn't surprise me that Mexi clad is appearing with such a high influx of Hispanics in the workforce.
I betcha they have caches buried all over the place at least the illegals? something I just thought about
 
Well Sven I tried this technique with my Vaquero on my morning hunt and wow what a difference in depth. I usually have threshold at 1 to 2 o'clock and now after ground balance is complete I turned threshold back to about 12 o'clock as you directed that second slight soft hum. The big change is that it is now quiet in AM mode, and that is how I hunt with the Vaquero AM via the red pinpoint button and Oh yes the depth is increased for sure on Canadian coins. When I switch over to discrimination silent search it is hits better than the way I was tuning previously. My sensitivity is set below 10 so not even super tuned. Thanks so mush for posting Sven this is my new set up for Vaquero as I came home with a fist full of coins this morning from an area that I have searched many times and that I thought was cleaned out.

Minas man
 
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