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noticed something about the X-1

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I noticed somthing the other day I thought I'd share with the forum. I got a silver hit and pulled the plug, and got the X-1 out to find the coin. Just as I was putting the X-1 in the hole I spotted the edge of a silver dime pointing at me, and since I was in the process of sticking the X-1 in, I thought I might as well listen to the silver squeal. Well, I was expecting a squeal right away but the the X-1 barely made a peep until I was right next to the edge of the coin! I guess I recall a few other times where my plug was off the mark a bit and the X-1 didn't make a sound, but when I re-pinpointed and shaved a bit off the side of the hole, the X-1 all of a sudden located the coin loud and clear. I guess what I'm trying to say is that if the X-1 is approaching a coin on edge you won't get 3 inches of depth with it, so be a little careful because a coin might still be down there still even when the X-1 says it's not.
 
Good point - I have had a similar experience. I scan the hole with the probe and hear nothing. I rescan the hole with the XS and it tells me there is a coin there. So, I dig a little more - cautiously, and bam the sound I'm looking for suddenly rings out. My most recent experience like this was a wheat that was down about 5 inches and when I dug a bit out of the side of the hole, that's when the probe came to life. The coin was at about a 45 degree angle.
 
Hey Guys,
Yea, same stuff happens to me. It really happens when I forget to turn the manual sensitivity back up when I am probing the hole. For example, I may be detecting at manual SEN = 15, get a coin hit, and then put the X1 into the hole without returning the manual sensitivity to 24. With my X1 probe, 24 seems to be the highest setting I can use with the most tolerable amount of interference. If I go higher, the probe puts out lots of noises. So on the lower sensitivity, you can tell the difference.
Here's two other unexpected things I learned from the X1 probe with respect to false coin signals coming from rusty nails.
1. The difference between a broken up coin hit, and a broken up falsie hit. (Use this to examine fainter iffy signals)
2. The difference between a solid coin hit, and a solid falsie hit. (Use this to examine solid hits)
It showed me the difference between weak, broken signals that are coming from a far away coin, and chopped off, broken, good-sounding signals being produced by a rusty nail. The broken coin tones sound like they are being chased by threshold, and sound like they are poking out of threshold. The broken falsie tones sound like they are poking out of silence, or have little bits of silence in between tone components. You can use this concept while you are using your search coil to check out those "apparant coin hits" that may or may not be false coin signals. The search coil reacts the same as the X1 probe does. The X1 probe also shows that an iron falsie grades into a null. For example, the X1 probe showed me that at a distance, it picks up a beautiful "apparant" coin hit. But then as you move the probe closer to the rusty nail, those good coin tones grade into a null zone with little bits of the original "apparant" coin hit flying out of the null zone. And then at an even closer distance, the X1 produces a pure null zone of silence. After I realized what the X1 probe was doing, I applied those same two concepts with the search coil, and it reduced the number of rusty objects I dig.
Mike
 
the probe and getting a weak signal or none at all I hit the pinpoint button (with the probe turned on) and that will lots of times give me the exact target location in the hole. This also seems to work well when the signal seems to be coming from all over in the hole.
Good Hunting, ArtWI
 
That is good information. The more you guys and gals use the X-1 in different hunting situations, etc. the more information it will give you. And as you said, the X-1 will mimic the same results as the coil and you can learn how and why your coil responds the way it does due to the response of the probe. <img src="/metal/html/wink.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=";)">
Ralph (Sun Ray)
 
quite a bit. any lower than 20 manual and you lose an inch or so.. I too find that 24 manual seems to be the perfect setting for the X1.. at the same time if I was hunting with a lower sens I dont bother turning it back up for the probe.. just dig deeper <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":)"> Actually my favorite signals are the ones the coil sees and the probe takes a bit of digging to see <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":)"> and your right on the signals as well.. a very faint hit witth the probe can teach you what to listen for with the coil, and it sure makes a stab at the iffy ones easy.. if your unsure, you can take a plug and shove in the probe.. a complete null replug and move on.. ever once in a while you get a nice suprise and the probe sings out loudly
 
I also had trouble locating the high coin signals with the probe because I hunt with a coin program with alot of discrimination which seems to null the probe but I have learn to hit the iron mask button which is set at -14 and it jumps on those high coins signals and then I hit the button again to put me back to the coin program.
 
I was hunting in a with low sensitivity in a construction site and I'll bet that was part of my problem. If I had cranked the sensitivity up I'm sure the X-1 would have seen it much sooner.
I find the the X-1 works best for me in ferrous mode, then there's no problem telling iron from coins. But certain sites are more suited for conductive mode (I guess I have to figure out a quick way to bounce to ferrous mode before using the probe). I agree that in conductive mode it does take some work distinguishing between coin signals and ferrous signals.
 
come up on your Back button if you make it your last adjustment before you hit the Detect button. This is a good way to hunt in Conduct and to check the signal in Ferrous before digging.
 
I have missed a nice barber quarter that was under a nail as when I dug a plug and went in with the probe it just nulled in disc but had a good signal in pinpoint, so I figured a nail and covered it back up only to have my hunting partner dig it up and removed the nail and there was a good signal under the nail and was shocked to see a barber quarter come out.
Now if the signal is questionable in disc and dig a plug and it nulls i try to get to what causes the null and remove that target and recheck the hole.
Rick
 
I'm a fan of the Periscope and actually selling my X-1. The periscope has a 14" steel probe that you can insert deeply into soft soil and up to several inches in clay, depending on compaction and moisture. It's killer for making quick work of shallow clad and can be adjusted very sensitive to find that coin in the side of the hole fast.
 
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