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:nopity: Please help me ! Fischer CZ21 or Minelab Excalibur? :unsure:
- Thread starter OscarSE
- Start date
You have to get out there and use the machine...whichever one you get.
Saying that, one of your criteria is iron discrimination. I think the Excal may be better than the CZ on that one. The CZ may have a tad more depth in terms of actually identifying a target. What I mean is, the CZ, in discriminate mode, has 3 tones. The Excal has a multitude of tones, but targets very deep, may not give a tone but more of a threshold change. The CZ will still give one of the 3 tones. It may give a low iron tone on a very deep target that may be a coin, but a tone none of the less.
Also...thin chains are very tough to get regardless. The CZ20/21 is locked in salt mode, so its sensitivity to very small gold is below average. With the 8 inch coil though, in autotune ( ie all metal) mode, it may pick some up. The CZ with that coil is easier to pin point than the Excal due to the concentric coil vs DD...but it's still pretty easy to pin point with the Excal once you get the hang of it ( and I am talking pin pointing WITHOUT going into pin point mode....staying in the discriminate mode while hunting).
Like stated before.....gotta get out there.
JC
Saying that, one of your criteria is iron discrimination. I think the Excal may be better than the CZ on that one. The CZ may have a tad more depth in terms of actually identifying a target. What I mean is, the CZ, in discriminate mode, has 3 tones. The Excal has a multitude of tones, but targets very deep, may not give a tone but more of a threshold change. The CZ will still give one of the 3 tones. It may give a low iron tone on a very deep target that may be a coin, but a tone none of the less.
Also...thin chains are very tough to get regardless. The CZ20/21 is locked in salt mode, so its sensitivity to very small gold is below average. With the 8 inch coil though, in autotune ( ie all metal) mode, it may pick some up. The CZ with that coil is easier to pin point than the Excal due to the concentric coil vs DD...but it's still pretty easy to pin point with the Excal once you get the hang of it ( and I am talking pin pointing WITHOUT going into pin point mode....staying in the discriminate mode while hunting).
Like stated before.....gotta get out there.
JC
Tony from Tidewater
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yeah,,the old fishers are,,but the new squeeky built bounty hunter type would give me cause for concern,,the quality this side o the pond aint anywhere near good enough to frighten minelab,..c.scope..xp..etc.,,they all seem to go wrong ??? ,,first tex have got to look at the old fishers build quality and reliability,,you cant touch it,,
I'll give the old political answer because it is true. Getting the most from your detector is what the important factor is. Sweep speed, whisper tones, discrimination here and pinpoint mode there. Learning the detector and using it over time makes the good finds happen. These guys with all the top of the line detectors in their signatures make me wonder. Maybe I am just a slow thinker, but I still think back to last years hunts and the things I did wrong. I never once thought the detector did anything wrong. Just me.
Alot of the finds are fresh drops that some of the cheapest detectors can find.That said, go with some thing that other people you know are useing and shorten your own learning curve.If you dont know of any hunting partners.Buy the best you can and put in the time on hear and where your going to be hunting.Dont waste your gas driving a long distance because that beach is one you always wanted to hunt until you learn your machine, close to home so you can go more offten.If your not finding any thing close to home you wont some where else .You will just start to question your machince.And have fun ..Hint -Hint =until you find your girl a gold ring she will probaly resent the time you are out hunting.
goodmore said:
Wonder no more...if U are going to hunt a variety of beaches and areas you will find that one detector will not do it all. Take your excal to a high black sand or iron infested area and you will be in serious trouble. This is where I would use my Infinium LS. It will punch through both and still get depth. Sometimes if I am hunting a very trashy beach where my excal/WOT will read to many targets at once, there I will use the excal with the stock coil. On a fairly clean beach I will use the WOT so I will gain the extra depth and not have to deal with bobby pins or the like. If I am hunting on the beach at night I like to use the BH300 because it has the indicator lights built in and I do not need to use an external light as much to check out a target
Now you know why some of us have several top of the line detectors
goodmore said:
I think this was more to the point...It doesn't matter what detector you have or how many. If you are taking the time to be introspective about your hunts and analyze your methods; trying to improve constantly, you will find success...whether you have one detector or 20.