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NOBODY Gets It All. Not Even A Friend Who Gridded A Small Spot With One Of the Best Silver Machines (No Model Names). Lesson Is No Place Is Hunted Out

Critterhunter

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OK, I'm excited! Up until today this year has been a bust for me, with only one rosie and a bunch of wheats, but no other good finds to speak of until today. But, in my defense, I haven't been hunting as often or with the vigor that I usually do this time of year. Some of you might remember a few months back that I took two friends with top of the line silver killing detectors to a house lot around the corner from me less than a mile away. That day I was not feeling well, so I mostly watched them hunt. They came back the next day and finished gridding out this lot that had one of the older houses in the area on it that they tore down over the winter.

Anyway, the total they ended up with after finishing gridding this place was a few rosies and mercs, a seated dime, 7 to 9 indians, and many wheats. The one guy also got a worn (no date) standing liberty quarter. The front yard of this site is divided into three small areas of grass by two driveways, with all three patches maybe 50 to 70 feet wide and a little longer, so the area suits it's self well to gridding well without getting sloppy and missing rows.

So, my one friend that gridded this particular center patch of grass between the two driveways that I decided to work today was digging any and all coin signals from zinc penny on up, and that's why he got a bunch of indians out of there as well as the other coins, including 3 indians in one hole. He's a good hunter and maticulous about his grid patterns, so I figured this would be a good challenge to see if the old Sovereign GT could pull any stuff he missed out of there.

I started my grid off and right away dug a few copper non-wheat pennies out of one hole. "You missed that one bud...", I thought to myself. A good sign, as they were only a few inches deep. My plan was to dig any and all signals above iron as this yard, like many yards, wasn't all that trashy, and I've had good luck digging rings in yards because the ring to trash ratio is usually pretty good, and people have had years doing yard work or playing in the yard to potentially lose a ring. Besides, this place is old enough for a gold coin or some other odd old coin that reads lower on the scale. I decided that as long as the signal was good and locked on to one or two numbers, and didn't bounce around or sound sick, then I was digging anything from foil on up as rings usually lock into one or two numbers.

The only sick sounding or iffy changing stuff I was going to dig was any coin signals, because obviously there probably wasn't going to be much junk in this yard to give false coin hits, so any bad sounding or one way ones could be a coin on edge or masked or something. But, as said, from foil up to just under coppy penny, I wanted a good locked on solid hit to avoid any can shards or other aluminum and such junk that usually will change by 3 digits or more. That was my game plan, so I probably in total only passed up maybe 5 to 10 signals or so that were below copper penny and junky sounding or with a jumpy ID in total.

So an hour to an hour and a half goes by and I'm taking it real slow and nice and easy, and thus far I've got an apron full of about 14 copper non-wheat pennies, 1 wheat, around 8 zincs, 5 or 6 pulltabs, and a few other assorted bits of junk. Along with that, probably about 4 or 5 clad dimes and a couple clad quarters. Obviously he didn't get everything here, despite how good and tight he grids and he does go slow with his machine like he should. I think the difference was I took it real slow, and tried to follow my new found religion to go even slower with coil advancement then I normaly go. A few inches at a time advancing, and keeping the coil just in front of my feet. I knew I'd need to go slow like this to find the stuff he missed, because he's got a very good machine and he's the best hunter I personaly know.

Anyway, sorry for the big build up. An hour and a half or so after I started I'm still not done with this small patch of grass in the center of the lot between the two driveways, but I'm starting to get sloppy so I figure one more row and I'll pick up where I left out tomorrow, as there was a tree in this row to mark where I left off. I get to the end of the row and am about 5 feet from the sidewalk when I get an instant and perfect 180 signal. "OK", I thought..."Got to be at least a clad quarter or perhaps a silver dime or such because I noticed they tend to jump to 180 more instantly while copper pennies can linger in the 178 or 179 area and clad dimes are a bit slower to make it to 180 than a clad quarter or a silver dime or quarter."

I dig the hole, stick in my Pro Pointer, find the target, and flip out a bit more dirt at the bottom of the hole at a depth of about 5" or so. Instantly I see a silver quarter's back! Either a barber or a standing liberty, I think to myself, as the back of those are either the same (?) or look the same to me from memory, so it's either or. Pick the coin up, flip it over, and it's a 1921 Standing Liberty Quarter! Instantly I see there is just a little tiny bit of wear on it! No mint mark. Hmmmm....I think, this could be a good chunk of change, as the early standing liberty quarters wore badly and fast, and normaly didn't have a date, as the lady and the date were raised and they say would wear off in a year or so! Later they re-designed them so the date and stuff was recessed so they didn't wear as fast, but I knew a 1921 was one of the ones that wear fast.

This is only might 5 to 7th standing liberty quarter from memory, and I think either one of the others had any date, or maybe I could just hardly read the date on one. Can't remember. Anyway, I decided it's time to quit because I'm getting sloppy and pick up tomorrow. Besides, I wanted to check the book to see just what kind of value I have here. GET REAY FOR THIS!

Only one coin type for 1921, and that's one with no mint mark. I look down the grades for it and my heart starts going....This book was published in 2010, so I'm sure these prices are even higher than what I'm about to list! G-4 $177. V-G8 $210. F-12 $425. VF-20 $650. EF-40 $750.

I read the grading guide to see what it might be. The shield still has fine detail on the rim pattern that goes around the edge. It's not just a line outlining the rim, but rather these rims have some kind of pattern on them. It looks unworn there. The center of the shield still has some line detail to what's there, but it's a bit warn. The lines in her dress are still pretty darn crisp too.

According to the book I know this coin is easily and conservately a G-4. But I'm pretty sure it is at least either a V-G8 or a F-12, and *possibly* even a higher grade then that! I've got to put my scope on her to really see for sure, but by the eye I'm guessing V-G8 or F-12 if not higher, but a sure bet this baby is at least G-5 by the naked eye!

Now, thus far my two other most expensive coins were a seated quarter that looked in uncirculated condition but had a couple of nasty dings in the edge (they weren't shiney so I didn't do them digging I don't think). If it wasn't for those dings that coins was like $1350. The other good coin was a silver 3 cent piece that was I think about a $190 coin from memory, as it also had no visible wear. Anyway, depending on where that seated quarter would have sold for this standing liberty might be my most expensive coin!

Unfortunately I don't have a very close up focus camera, and it uses a compact flash card that the computer I use now doesn't have a port for, but I'll try to get ahold of either an adaptor or somebody elses camera to post a picture for you guys. That is, if I don't sell it for the right price before I can get a picture done to post! :biggrin: I don't like selling my coins, but at this point in time money is tight for me so a picture is good enough for me to remember her by, just like some of the women I used to date. :biggrin:

Needless to say I'm pumped and going back tomorrow. After this small patch of grass is done I've got two other blocks of grass in the front yard and then a big back yard to hunt, so this might be a two week type of deal. My two friends with flagship silver getting detectors are good hunters, but obviously they didn't get it all! Not to mention the guy with a 90's detector from another company that showed up and hunted this spot while they were there one day. :smoke:
 
Great story and find. Doesn't get much better than that and quite a departure from your not so good hunt the other day!
 
Thanks, I'm really kind'a in a dream at the moment about it. It may not sound like a lot of money to some people but when you've been out of work for a while like me it's like hitting the lottery. I plan to shop it over to a local coin dealer who has given me good prices on my silver and gold in the past compared to most local outlets. After he offers me a price I think I'll put it on Craigslist locally for a bit more than that. Worked like a charm for the 3 cent piece and seated quarter. I just put in my ad what I was offered by a dealer and people are willing to pay a few more bucks then that because they know a dealer tends to really low ball stuff.

That being said, the best place to cash in your gold is ARI (or something like that) that people are always talking about in the Beach Forum. That place only skims like 2% off the current stock market price of gold and gives you the rest. Many people who have dealt with them have confirmed that. If you can wait a week for the cash it's best to mail a ring to them, as as a rule in general local "we buy gold" stores only give you about 40 to 50% of the going price for gold if not worse, while that place they talk about in the beach forum gives you 98%. They are a tad better than Midwest, which is another place they talk about in the beach forum.
 
That is a totally awesome find Critter! I'd sure like to see a picture. If I missed it I'm sorry, but what coil were you using? Nice story. Thanks
Good luck Gary
 
Critter,nice find,keep us posted on the final determined value.In 1976 I found a 1927 S fine condition one of my better finds.Thanks for sharing.HH Ron
 
Awesome!! That`s why I keep going...you just never know. Congrats on a great find and good luck with the rest of the yard.
 
Nice find 1921 SLQ P FH ? just under 2 million were minted in Philadelphia and only in Philadelphia make sure your,s is a full head , which means the top of the head is not chopped off by the rim . Jim
 
Thanks everybody. Yes, I believe the head isn't cut off but I'll take a closer look at that next time I have the coin in my hand. I'll let you know what the final price I get is. I gave it a gentle cleaning with some dish washing soap and warm water and looked under a loop. From what I see it's either V-G8 at $210 or F-12 at $425. These are retail prices from a 2010 book, so I bet those prices are a bit higher today. It's easily G-4 $177 without a doubt, but I feel according to the grade guide it's either VG-8 or F-12. I'll see what the dealer offers me and if the price is right I'll bite, but more than likely I'll stick it on Craigslist for more and see what I get. Private buyers are of course eager to pay more than a dealer, and being that it's listed locally I've got plenty of calls in the past when I've sold coins on there.

I'll keep you guys updated on my future hunts at this site as I continue to grid it out. I'd be going right now but I have a potential job opening at a HVAC company. They called me yesterday about my resume and said they want me to call back today at around noon to talk to a certain person there. Maybe my luck is changing in more than one way. :biggrin:

By the way, I talked to my friend who gridded that center patch of grass and he said he was a bit sloppy by then because he had been hunting the site extensively already that day. I know how that goes, and that explains all the copper memorials and other coins I dug because I didn't think he would normaly miss that many coins in such a small area. He's better than that. But, either way, I think what made the difference was that I crawled along only inching the coil forward by inches at a time. I'll tell you guys how well I do at the next block of grass on the other side of the driveway, because I think he said he gridded that one more intensely. Should be a good challenge to see how I and the GT can find what he missed at that spot. The key is going super slow and not getting in a hurry.

Also, one clad quarter I dug was giving me a real sick up and down sound and only was decent in one direction. I knew right away this was probably a coin on edge by the unique sound of it. But just the same, make sure you dig those iffy coin signals that screw caps can some times give, because the reaction in audio is *somewhat* similar. However, after you'd dug a few coins on edge you'll be able to tell the difference. Screw caps for me will sound warbly and move from like 178 to 180 from one direction, but will have a good coin signal from another. The audio of a coin on edge is more of a up/down/up/down type of cound from one direction, but not a "warbly" sound that screw caps usually make. There is a distinction, and I get excited when I hear that unique coin on edge sound.

I was using the 12x10, of course, as that's replaced my 10" Tornado as my land coil. I keep the 10" coil on my water rig (original shaft) for quick swaps of the control box to go water hunting. Only time I take the 12x10 off is to use the S-5 in heavy trash, which I haven't really used more than 4 or 5 times since I got it. I really should use the S-5 more because in the short time I've used it thus far I already nailed a rosie 6 or 7" deep between two shallow pull tabs.
 
Way to go Critter :clapping:
 
Welp, there aren't going to be any pictures to post, because I just sold the coin. I headed up to a nearby coin/gold dealer who has been pretty fair in the past. I've shopped around before and this guy gives higher X times face value prices on common silver as well as higher gold weight prices than any of the other shops in my area. Of course his gold prices aren't as good as that mail order place on the Beach Forum who only skims 2% of the day's stock market price, but still he's pretty fair compared to any of the local walk in shops. He also said he's going to start smelting gold and thus can pay even more than he does now when he does that. That will be nice when I'm not in the mood to wait for a check in the mail from the other place.

He looked at the coin and said that's a common date being 1927 and handed it back to me. I said look again, it's 1921. He said "Oh, wow..." and looked on his computer and at it under a loop and then said is it was F-12 condition! That's great! The third grade up, and the highest I thought it might be. He asked how much I wanted for it and I said the two year old book price was $425 so tell me what you'll offer as I know you need to make a profit. He said, well, I can show you my source on the computer right now where I can get that year in that condition for just over $200 as he started to turn the computer screen my way. I said no need, since it's obvious you're willing to show me. I told him I know he has to make a profit so give me your best shot. He offered me $150 and said he'd make about $50 after shipping it to a buyer and such for the price he was going to get. That seemed fair to me, as everybody in business needs to make something, so I took the cash.

I'm pretty happy. He also bought an 1842 seated dime from me that was very worn and my book said was worth less than the $12 he offered, so I sold that to him too.

I'm sure some of you guys are cringing at the idea of selling off your coins but I'm not in a position to hold on to stuff like that right now. Down the road when money isn't an issue I'll hold on to all my silver coin finds, but at this point in time the only thing I've always kept and still do are my non-silver coins. That is, until I find one of those that is worth selling. To date my most valuable non-silver coin is an 1848 (I think) large cent in mint condition. I've been offered $40 for that but it's such a nice coin that I can't bring myself to sell it.
 
OK, did some surfing on Ebay comparing pictures to my coin and found a few that pretty much match the condition it was in. So here you go...

The prices on these coins on there were in roughly that grade were around the $500 range and more, but obviously those are asking prices with no bids on them at all that I saw as that's full blown retail. As said, this dealer was starting to turn his computer screen my way to show me where he can get that year and grade for just over $200 from his sources, so I was pretty confident that he was straight up about that with me. Hey, for found money digging one target I'm happy as pie with $150 walking out the door. Filled my truck up and now I can buy a 6 pack of some premium beer (premium beer to me is something like Budweiser, instead of Natural Light :biggrin: ) to get a little buzz and celebrate tonight. :beers: Also, just talked to that HVAC company on the phone and they want me in for an interview tomorrow. Life is good, or at least looks like it's getting better. :smoke:

Mine might have slightly more wear than these at the very center of the shield, but the date on mine looks raised more than these do, so it's roughly about the grade of these two coins.

I realize that to some of you guys selling your silver is sacrilege but hey, I'm out of work at the moment and I've got pictures of similar coins right here that I can cut out and stick in my collection. Actually that's not a bad idea...:biggrin:
 
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Loosecanon said:
Hey CH good find and good luck with your interview. HH

Hey, thanks to you and everybody else as well. It's been a while since I got patted on the back for anything so it feels good. Thanks again.
 
I just searched the "sold" section on fleabay and found that coins roughly my grade were sold for somewhere in the $350 to $450 range roughly, so that pretty much jives with what the coin book says. As said, though, this guy was willing to show me coins in that grade from his supplier on the computer that he can get for just over $200, so I'm fairly happy with the price. After all, why buy it from me when he can get one to resale for about $50 or so more.
 
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