No, the Land Star does NOT discriminate. Replacing!

[Golden Silver]

On another THing forum I received the news I feared: the Land Star does NOT discriminate! A poster said that the DISC/NOTCH control will not eliminate coins and it will continue beeping even with the control advanced to the max. This is not good news and has convinced me to look for a detector whose discriminate control works as it should.

With my old Teknetics Mark I Ltd, I would advance the DISC knob while watching the meter needle. When I advanced the needle just past cent I stopped. Now the detector was quiet from zero to where I stopped the needle and sound off only after that which would be a dime. IOW, it would beep from a dime on towards dollar.

I cannot have a detector that does not discriminate to my liking. I don't know if the Fisher F5 is so adjustable but if it does, that will be my next machiine as it has a lot of knobs! Gotta have knobs!

Golden Silver

 

[nick hunter]

Hello !

Two possibilities :

-There is something wrong with your LAND STAR, cause those detectors, as well as any other BH models, DO discriminate.OR

-You simply forgot to push the "disc" button and are still working in ALL METAL. When in all metal, the NOTCH/DISC knob is inoperative.

Happy Hunting !

Nick the Belgian !

 

[Golden Silver]

[quote nick hunter]Hello !

Two possibilities :

-There is something wrong with your LAND STAR, cause those detectors, as well as any other BH models, DO discriminate.OR

-You simply forgot to push the "disc" button and are still working in ALL METAL. When in all metal, the NOTCH/DISC knob is inoperative.

Happy Hunting !

Nick the Belgian ![/quote]
Thanks, Nick, I'll take your observation into account next time I go out. I'm pretty sure that I did push DISC before I experimented. And, as I said, another person verified my findings. But I'll try it again before I decide.

 

[dobbie]

good luck to you hope it works out to your liking..

 

[BH-LandStar]

I have no problem Discriminating or Notching out zinc pennies...Why would you want to Disc or Notch out any other coins??? If you turn the DISC up past ZINC, you have just effectively turned your detector into a manhole cover finder, because if the object is smaller than that, it is NOT going to be detected...If your looking to find Relics, and not coins, it is better to hunt in one of the Notch modes...Then if you turn your notch to lock out coins on the higher end of the scale, you will only find pull-tabs or below on the scale...


HH,

BH-LandStar

 

[Delaware Bill]

Possibly you were using a copper (brass alloy)cent not a zinc, zincs started in 1982, just a thought. HH

 

[Golden Silver]

[quote BH-LandStar]I have no problem Discriminating or Notching out zinc pennies...Why would you want to Disc or Notch out any other coins??? If you turn the DISC up past ZINC, you have just effectively turned your detector into a manhole cover finder, because if the object is smaller than that, it is NOT going to be detected...If your looking to find Relics, and not coins, it is better to hunt in one of the Notch modes...Then if you turn your notch to lock out coins on the higher end of the scale, you will only find pull-tabs or below on the scale...


HH,

BH-LandStar[/quote]

[Posted by: Delaware Bill [ Send a PM ]
Date: 1 hour ago Registered: 2 years ago
Posts: 64

Possibly you were using a copper (brass alloy)cent not a zinc, zincs started in 1982, just a thought. HH]

Let me try to explain, again, as simply as I can what I'm encountering with the LS. But first, a little history to make it easier. When I used my Teknetics Mark I Ltd, I could run the discriminate control to where the machine would ignore cents, old cents, pre-1982, or wheaties. I didn't always want to take the time to dig a cent as I preferred to use the time digging dimes, quarters, halves... So, by adjusting the meter needle and stopping at cent, I could make the machine ignore the cent but sound off on dime and higher.

The LS combines cent and dime so that one icon registers for both and you get the same tone for both. When you dig for the item you don't know if it's going to be a cent or a dime. I'm not crazy about that. The machine should have been designed to differentiate between cent and dime not only with separate icons but with separate tones. The DISCRIMINATE mode means just that, it discriminates what you want it to ignore. The DISC control should sound off on all targets when the DISC control is at minimum. As you advance the control the machine should go silent as you pass by each item you want it to ignore. So if I put down on the ground a nickel, pulltab, cent, dime, quarter, half dollar, dollar it should ignore each item until the control is at max. That's the way my Mar I Ltd worked; I could knock out everything with the DISC control.

When I was hunting the other day and I wanted to concentrate only on quarters and halves, knocking out the cent and dime would have been my goal which is why I threw a pre-1982 cent on the ground and started to crank the DISC control. When I found that I had advanced it to the max and it was still sounding off on the cent I was miffed. At the max setting of the DISC control the machine should have been silent.

Is the above a clearer explanation?

 

[Wishful-thinker]

The Land Star will not Disc a penny...or anything higher.......I did the test.

 

[bigolhorns]

The Landstar is a great detector and is working as it should. The Landstar has very,very good discrimination. Can it tell the difference between a penny and a dime? No it can't. No other detector will consistently do this either. Like others have said, why do you want to reject t pennies?? If you do you will miss dimes and deep silver quarters,Guaranteed. Sound like you need to go back to the Teknetics. Nothing is wrong with your Landstar.

 

[EZrider]

I understand what fox is saing and what he is looking for cant be had by his machine. I can duplicate it on my 75. Although if i want to take out pennys i can notch the low 70s and still keep the high 70s for dimes "pennys read low 70s". Due to masking i never use disc or notch.

 

[GRAY GHOST]

hi goldensilver, i don't like to use the notch modes on my qd2/pioneer 202 for that same reason. i want to make the choice of what i dig, and not let the machine make the choice for me. generally, if the beep sounds like a good one, we'll dig it up, right? you say you want to disc out cents, but copper and zinc targets comprise a large percentage of what is available for us to find. you also say that you want to disc out cents, but go out and look for quarters and halves, that's not gonna happen either, 'cause theyr'e made primarily of copper too. i don't like digging cents either, especially the zinc ones, but if i don't, i know i'll be missing out on a lot. i believe you have a great machine, i know cents and pulltabs are pesky. the more you try to fight your machine, the less you will find. technology hasn't advanced that far up yet, but it's coming. no machine that i know of has the capability to disc out zinc cents [that are copper plated] and not miss out on other good stuff within the scale. somebody apparently got the idea that metal detectors are smart machines; theyr'e not. really. their only and sole function is to locate different metals in the ground, and sometimes accurately tell you how deep it is, and give you an idea of what it is. and that's it. nothing more. good luck, and hh,

 

[Golden Silver]

[quote Wishful-thinker]The Land Star will not Disc a penny...or anything higher.......I did the test.[/quote]

Thanks for confirming my findings, Wishful-thinker.

 

[JJ]

Maybe try turning your sensitivity fully counter clockwise to the "off" position. This should effectively eliminate all those pesky "good" tones, and let me know where you hunt so i can clean up behind you. You do realize that your theory above goes completely out the window for anything deeper than a couple inches with ANY machine, even your magical Tek.