No Silver --- But ---> Got Gold

[Atlas]

Went back to the place I found the Good For 50 In Trade token for a few hours today. Working on griding the area and was hoping for some silver. Lots of square nails at this location so I know there has to be something good there. It's real trashy with some big iron also. Working my second grid line and I got a 12/21-22-23 slightly bouncy signal but it was smooth in tone. Now this is right in the middle of the square tab range and as you can see I from the photo I dug a bunch. So I'm digging and thinking it's another pull tab but I'm trying to clean them out a bit in case there masking something. Down about 2-3" out pops this nice 5gm gold ring. Now it's not marked but based on the weight for the size I'm pretty sure it's gold. It's a custom design with the diagonal stripes "burned" into the band so you get a little peak into the band. I need to get an acid kit but there are a few scratches that don't look like they scratched through platting.

I was using Combine with ground-coin, deep on, Auto sens up to +3. I got lucky cause I was using my open screen and not the high disc screen that I switch into when the trash get to crazy to stand. Moral of the story is I guess you need to dig a few tabs to find the gold.

Still trying to get that first silver coin and it's a little frustrating with ~40 hours on the CTX. Just gotta keep swinging. I've got high mineralization in my area and suggested sens levels vary from as low as 3 to 14. I've tried manual at 20 to 24 but it's to erratic. I haven't tried to manual ground balance yet. My deepest coins to date are from around 6" but I have dug deeper for some sprinkler heads etc.

 

[laplander]

I hunted several hours before I got my first silver and actually got gold 1st but what the heck gold is good real good!! congrats on a sweet find

 

[TheGeorgiaCanuck]

Are you using Ferrous-Coin or Ground-Coin?

 

[Confused]

Very nice.

 

[MAK]

I was using Combine with ground-coin, deep on, Auto sens up to +3.

 

[Larry (IL)]

That is a beauty of a ring......

 

[Atlas]

Just to follow up for the GeorgiaCanuck

I was using ground coin on the day I found the ring. The other program I have in the user button is 50 conductive with Fe-Coin to cross check targets. I've tried both and sometimes one seems better than the other. So for me in this ground it seems as though I get less falsing with ground coin but perhaps not as good target separation in the iron. It's a real battle in some of the locations I have cause you have high amounts of ground mineralization and high levels of iron trash. I mean some of the posts I've seen where guys are running Ferrous - Coin have sensitivity levels up in the mid to high 20's and I just can't run that high. So I would say my mineralization kinda trumps my iron problem but only time will tell.

Still just as an experiment I may give Ferrous - Coin another test in that area and see what happens.

HH

 

[greedykind]

very nice and thanks for the info

 

[TheGeorgiaCanuck]

Just to follow up for the GeorgiaCanuck

I was using ground coin on the day I found the ring. The other program I have in the user button is 50 conductive with Fe-Coin to cross check targets. I've tried both and sometimes one seems better than the other. So for me in this ground it seems as though I get less falsing with ground coin but perhaps not as good target separation in the iron. It's a real battle in some of the locations I have cause you have high amounts of ground mineralization and high levels of iron trash. I mean some of the posts I've seen where guys are running Ferrous - Coin have sensitivity levels up in the mid to high 20's and I just can't run that high. So I would say my mineralization kinda trumps my iron problem but only time will tell.

Still just as an experiment I may give Ferrous - Coin another test in that area and see what happens.

HH

If you have high mineralization and your running ground-coin, try manual ground balancing.

 

[Des D]

Atlas,

Hi...your post is interesting.
The law of averages would suggest after 40hrs a silver coin should have been found...even a lowly silver dime!

Could you try a little experiment for me please on one of your mineralised coin-shooting sites?

Re: the Disc pattern shown - could you create something like it? Use XChange 2...it's a lot quicker to draw it.
This will be Pattern 1

For "checking signals", create a minimal Ferrous line on screen bottom and assign that to Pattern 2
If any ferrous breaks through in Pattern 2 it should give a low 'drone' sound.

Yes - do a GB procedure - possibly easier said than done due to the nail problem alluded to...might be difficult to find a 'clear spot'
Use Auto Sens
Tone ID Profile - 2 Ferrous Tones
Response - Normal
Recovery Fast - On
Recovery Deep - On
Target Separation - High Trash
Pinpoint - Normal

Give it an hour or two and let me know what happens? I'd like to know.
Any silvers ' should hit clearly' and easily...2 Tone should "clean up" any dirty sounds.

Good Hunting

Des D

 

[Atlas]

Thanks for the suggestions Des D. I'll give your set up a try next time out and let you know the results. I have to agree that after 40 hours for my silver drought to continue is against the averages. At least I found that first piece of gold.

 

[Black Davy]

Dont worry Atlas the Silver is on its way!

 

[Des D]

Thanks for the suggestions Des D. I'll give your set up a try next time out and let you know the results. I have to agree that after 40 hours for my silver drought to continue is against the averages. At least I found that first piece of gold.

Thanks Atlas.
Pleased to hear you'll give it a go.

Congrats on the 'bling' by the way!! (forgot to say that earlier)

What I'd {like to establish} with the severe discrimination pattern is, are there actually any silvers left where you're hunting?
Again, laws of averages would suggest there are?
If you do find some then I'll send you a few other suggestions.
Most of my hunting was carried out in similar sites in the Pittsburgh area (I'm a founding member of The North Pittsburgh Pastfinders) and they were as you described...tabs and nail infested.
But, with perserverance and better discrimination techniques, even the trashiest sites gave up silver...mostly silver dimes and Buffalo nickels!

Good Hunting

Des D

 

[Atlas]

Hey Des D I gave your program a try in the area where I found the ring. I have to fess up that I opened up the 12 Fe line all the way across just in case another piece of gold was out there and I also opened up 1/41-46 cause the coin ID chart posted earlier in the classroom showed big silver dollars and halves hitting in that range when using High Trash separation. All other settings are as you suggested.

Didn't find any silver but did recover a few shallow pennies among iron and one older brass shotgun end cap. I really liked the way it quieted down the "noise" I think I'll keep running it there next time I get out. One thing I did notice was a few iron falses did come through but many were in the 1/30-40 ID range which is different from say Fe/coin or ground/coin where false iron ID's in the 12/40 range usually. I'm fairly convinced that for this two hour run I just didn't put the coil over any silver. I did dig deep on an old abandoned sprinkler head at around 7-8". I had to give it up when the snow started falling. More flurries today with some 60's next week.

 

[Big Boys Hobbies]

I will take a gold ring ANY day over a silver coin! Keep swinging! The Minelab CTX 3030 will surprise you!

 

[doc1964]

Very nice ring Atlas - love the design. As Bart so aptly stated, I'll take gold over silver any day!!!

 

[Des D]

7" - 8" mightn't sound too deep for some but, if working mineralised and nail contaminated ground 7" or 8" is good considering the masking effect of ferrous.

Well done.

Glad you gave 'em a try Atlas.

Good Hunting

Des D

 

[MikeO]

Awesome find.

 

[Atlas]

Don't get me wrong Bart I'm lovin that ring. I'm just anxious to get a silver coin to break the silver drought. Lately in high trash areas I've been using Des D's suggested high disc TTF program and did dig some wheat pennies in a very trashy area. Cross checking in Combine for more stable ID. Now this is an area that I grid hunted before so the CTX is sniffing out some older coin -- just copper not silver. Anyway I figure if I'm digging the wheat's the silver will come.

 

[Crusty]

Congrats on the gold ring Must dig at least some pull tabs to get the gold.

Dave