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Nickels

7centsworth

7centsworth

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I dug two nickels in an area that is suppose to be hunted out or so they say. I dug one 1940 nickel , one 1948 nickel and a 1939 penny. The nickels bounced all over in between 8 and 22 on the tid . There was nails all around them and they were about 5 to 6 inches deep. I was using 6 inch dd coil with sensitivity set at 26 , tracking on in all metal. I tried to switch to pattern 1 and one would not sound and the other barely did. I gues that is why other people have missed those coins. Just thought I would share that with yall.
 
Glad you found the old nickels and the wheat cent. And you are correct in your statement as to why many others may have missed them. Many other detectors, and most built prior to the past few years, incorporate variable discrimination. That means once you set the discrimination, it will reject every target with a higher ferrous content. But I disagree with your comment that the nickels bounced around from 8 to 22 on the TID. I would be willing to bet that the bouncing is due to the adjacent nails and not the nickels. When you sweep a coil over multiple targets, the TID will attempt to provide an indication for each target. The closer the targets or the faster you sweep, the more quickly the TID has to change. If you were to first remove the nails, I think you would have found the nickels to provide a consistent reading. Individual US coins will typically read the same in the dirt as they do in the air. The exceptions being when the coin is adjacent to another metallic object(s), if the coin is on edge, the detector is improperly setup for the site or if they are too deep to provide accurate phase shift information.

Your choice of using the 6-inch DD coil was the proper choice for this type of hunt. Larger coils or concentric coils will not provide the separation you got with your 6-inch DD. Congrats on the finds and for selecting the right tool for the job! HH Randy
 
So far this year with the 6" DD HF coil, nickels have been a lock solid 12 on my X-T 70. All my nickels have been found in pattern one mostly because that is all I hunt in. Today with the 10 1/2" DD MF coil got a jumpy 36, 40, 44 reading and was surprised to pull a penny, quarter and dime out of the same hole. Exactly what the X-T 70 was trying to tell me was there. Also found a Canadian quarter which read mostly 44's with an occasional 46 throwed in for good measure.
 
Exactly right IMO, don't use any disc in high trash areas.
All metal is the way to go.
Go slow and check the chirps from different angles, if they repeat even on
one angle, dig them.
If they don't more than likely it is falsing.
 
Digger said:
Glad you found the old nickels and the wheat cent. And you are correct in your statement as to why many others may have missed them. Many other detectors, and most built prior to the past few years, incorporate variable discrimination. That means once you set the discrimination, it will reject every target with a higher ferrous content. But I disagree with your comment that the nickels bounced around from 8 to 22 on the TID. I would be willing to bet that the bouncing is due to the adjacent nails and not the nickels. When you sweep a coil over multiple targets, the TID will attempt to provide an indication for each target. The closer the targets or the faster you sweep, the more quickly the TID has to change. If you were to first remove the nails, I think you would have found the nickels to provide a consistent reading. Individual US coins will typically read the same in the dirt as they do in the air. The exceptions being when the coin is adjacent to another metallic object(s), if the coin is on edge, the detector is improperly setup for the site or if they are too deep to provide accurate phase shift information.

Your choice of using the 6-inch DD coil was the proper choice for this type of hunt. Larger coils or concentric coils will not provide the separation you got with your 6-inch DD. Congrats on the finds and for selecting the right tool for the job! HH Randy
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If you read my post it says there was nails all around them. Alot of people do not dig jumpy tids, it paid off for me. I use to not dig jumpy tids , but now i do.
 
Yeah that is why I started digging them . I see all the good coins you find.
 
I did read in your post that you had found nails all around the nickels. But you also said the nickels bounced all over in between 8 and 22 on the tid. My point is that the nickel signals did not bounce. The appearance of TID "bounce" was caused by multiple signals of the adjacent targets whose ferrous value is different than the nickels. In your case, it was nails. And you could have made the determination of multiple targets before you dug the hole, if you had set your X-TERRA up differently. A very effective way to greatly reduce the amount of trash one digs, and be fairly confident that you are not missing targets, is by hunting with multiple tones and zero discrimination. Particularly with the 6-inch DD coil. Once you get a "hit", work the coil over the target area and listen for changes in audio response. If you get more than one tone, it means there are multiple targets. If you look at the TID, you may think it is bouncing. But it is not. It is merely doing what it was designed to do and that is to provide a target value for each target, on the display. Those who have learned the art of hunting in multiple tone mode recognize that there is one tone and one TID for each notch segment. When you reject that notch segment in a Pattern, you are removing one of the most valuable tools for target separation. Those who set their Patterns to detect all targets above a certain level of discrimination, set their audio to one tone for all targets, and disregard what they incorrectly determine to be "bouncing numbers" would do just as well using a non-metered, variable discrimination detector like an Advantage or a Vaquero. Afterall, why pay for the technology if you're not going learn how to properly use it? JMHO HH Randy
 
In my first post I was not saying they bounced in a bad way. I was running in all metal and 4 tones . I was hunting a so called hunted out spot . I have hunted it too with about three different detectors and I know it has been hunted with a garret and a tesoro and compass by others. I knew there was probably iron in there by the tones. That is why I dug . I knew it sounde different and that it had been hunted hard . I thought to myself i wonder if this is a coin masked by iron . Turned out it was, that is what I was trying to say. I was not meaning the detector was iding wrong . It is the best detctor I have ever used . It was telling me exactly what was in the hole. It was up to me to investigate.
 
sometimes in hard hunted areas there is nothing you can do but dig the iffy signals, looks like you made the right call
 
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