still looking 52 said:
Revier, do you think your old F70 would have found this ring or is this new Nox just better?
Nice find!
I am sure the F70 would have found it, it was in an area I hadn't hunted much before and there wasn't a huge amount of masking trash in the vicinity so if I got my coil over it I would have noticed it.
On the other hand below is the rest of the stuff I found.
This park is a place I have hunted many times before and always came away with a decent amount of clad, at least, once in awhile something cool like silver coins but I don't recall ever coming home with this much on one hunt before.
In my dirt with the mineralization and all the extra iron masking is our major hurdle, since moving back here from Kansas all I have tried to do was figure out ways to get around these insane masking issues.
The Compadre and Mojave do a decent job of it, especially the Mojave, and the Vaq did ok but the Vaq really likes iron a bit too much for the volume of that junk we are lucky to have around here.
With the F70 I experimented like crazy and found a few ways to combat the masking and became better than I thought was possible around here, I found a ton of great treasure in areas just like this where most don't hunt anymore because it has been so long since anyone found anything decent so they consider them hunted out.
I discovered that there still a lot of great targets left most everywhere but they are so masked because of the hot dirt, iron and trash nobody ever suspected they were there.
Not everything is deep either, I have dug coins with messed up iffy signals that were fairly shallow like 2-3" in some sites so imagine how screwed up things can get if they are laying at my normal deep target depth of 5-6"...or deeper.
Then I saw what the Nox can do in this challenging mess.
It goes deeper with better ID's, it is much more stable with way less jumping around but more importantly it is locking onto masked targets better than any other tool I have used around here.
It actually makes it much easier to spot them.
There is some behavior I had to learn when going after some of the more masked items, not everything is perfectly cut and dried, but as I observe more and more behavior it is getting easier and easier to find the good stuff.
Look at the pic, all that stuff was here before, none were fresh drops including 3 coin spills I came across and all were in a range between only 2-5" deep but l, and everyone else, missed them all for years.
On this hunt it was easy to find it all and I am shocked at the amount of coins I found, I am sure there are a lot more and who knows what else so I will continue to come back.
Also look at the nickels, this thing seems to lock on nickels extremely well but it locks on a lot of trash really well, also.
I only had 12 and 13 accepted, normal nickel numbers and they were both set to high tones, and them I added the number 14 and set that at a lower tone.
All day I had signals in this small range and I dug a lot of sta-tabs because this park is infested with them.
Then I observed that a lot of the signals I heard might have had that high tone in there and a 12-13 number but if it even jumped a little to that 14 with the noticeable low tone those turned t to be sta-tabs every time.
The ones that stayed solid at 12 or 13, or even if they jumped between them a little, if I didn't hear that low tone those were nickels every time.
Most of the nickels in that pic popped up after I realized this and I quit digging the ones that jumped to 14 and zeroed in on just the 12-13's.
I can't do that with the F70, I have never had this much control over the disc system before where you can target such tiny ranges and I also never held a tool that can take advantage of the ability to do that, either.
I can see that if you want to set this thing to cherry pick just a small range, like gold just under the nickel range, you can do that and knock out everything else and make it quiet so you can hear the range you are going after.
A pretty handy ability when you hunt total trash pits like I usually do.
Oh yea, this was all found with the 11" coil, I wonder if the sniper coil would do even better so I will return with that coil and my new settings.
The rest of the stuff were all high conductor targets except for that knife and a few zincolns that slipped through...probably due to up averaging which can happen here because of all the big and small iron we are blessed with.
Some were perfect signals and a whole lot were a bit iffy but I figured out behavior that tells me when to go after those iffier signals and I find good targets most of the time.
It just seems that here in my dirt with all of our other problems the Nox was designed to work here better than other detectors but don't ask me why...it just does.
I have hundreds if not thousands of hours using my arsenal of detectors and I know plenty of hunters here that use most of the Whites units, some that have E Tracs, I have seen Deus's at work plus a couple of AT Pros and an AT Max and other Tesoro models and none work quite the same, or as well, as the Nox...at least in the unmasking department and depth here in my dirt, for others that hunt in different conditions your mileage may vary.
A lot of those guys got rid of their old machines and got a Nox and several more are thinking about it.
Nobody ever thought there would be a detector that would work so well here, we all just used what we used and got to the pitiful depths we could get to and found what we found and we just dealt with it all because we had to.
Evidently we all missed a whole lot of stuff over the decades,
We all had limits to what we could do and we just accepted that...it was either that or move to more forgiving dirt.
Now we don't have to move, the Nox is really opening up all sites again, for me it has, anyway.
Am I getting rid of the F70...nope.
I still have more fun with that one because I much prefer the 1-99 target range number, the 40 on the Nox is too compressed for my liking plus I mentioned the Nox locks onto good targets well but it also does that on a lot of trash because of whatever and that small, compressed target range.
I dig more trash than I prefer to because a lot of junk comes in solid and I always dig those signals but on the other hand the Nox seems to be finding me way more overall so I figure it's a wash.
I still use the F70 for relaxing fun but the Nox is finding more in all my sites I never knew was there so I will hang with that one most of the time for now.
I am just starting to do some heavy experimentation with the settings, the thing works great but maybe I can hit on the perfect settings to make it work even better.
These were total cherry picking settings I used for the first time and they worked shockingly great.
I will let you know what i observe and find as time goes on.
