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Newbie Question

Architex

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I have about 3 hours experience with my new SE, all in parks. Today I had a problem I'm hoping you can help me with. I was running in fast, sens at 20 manual, noise cancelled, etc. I would hit a potential target, just one, and get a reading, then in pinpoint got another reading, back to detect still another reading. Not numbers close to each other but pretty far apart. For example initial reading would be 0-28, pinpoint at 7-28, detect at 3-18. Target indicated 4" deep. Mineralization is virtually non-existant here. What gives?
 
I have a expl.2 and not a lot of experience , but I was told that funning it in fast can give you trouble sometimes. Mine will do that sometimes and what I do is I will move around the target and see if it stays the same. maybe that will help.
 
You are probably hitting a real deep target just out of range or an irregular shaped one that would give you different readings from differnent angles.Did you dig it to see what was in the ground?..Personally you should be using quickstart until you get the hang of it. I think inexperience not problems with the unit is the answer..Don't rush your learning period lest you really get lost..but thats your call...
 
I don't know if you have a X1 probe, but the problem sounds a little like the experience I have when I forget to switch back to the coil from my X1 probe.

Oops! I probably blew it by admitting that. But I bet I'm not the only one.

If it is not that, then I would probably noise cancel again and throw a coin or other suitable target down and make sure that the detector is reacting normally to that. If it did then I would go back over the place to see if you still had the problem.

As others have said I would do my serious hunting in the starter program for awhile, but I would play around with the advanced features at home and then gradually add them in while in the field.

HH Alton
 
Running in fast is probably the answer. Today however, I was in fast and found two wheats and a clad quarter at 7-8".....and I knew what they would be! Pretty proud of myself.
I'll probably be knocked back down by tomorrow's hunt.
 
Architex,

As a former DFX user (like you), I have found that running SmartFind rather than Digital is more reliable. I have found that it is much better when it comes to IDing targets (especially in trash). On the DFX, you can get caught up in the VDI numbers which will influence your dig/no dig decisions. If you use the digital numbers with the Explorer you will fall into the same trap. However, with the SmartFind, you will get a visual on how the target responds via the crosshairs. Mike Moutray has some good points on this: see http://www.sugarcreekglencampground.com/explorertips.htm & http://www.findmall.com/read.php?19,460890,462634#msg-462634 & http://www.frontiernet.net/~jvokes/exscreens.htm
for more info. I hope this helps.
 
I generally try to get a reasonable reading on the target and do the first level of pinpointing while still in the non-pinpoint mode. Then I do a pinpoint to really zero in on the target. After that go back to the detect mode and get a final reading on the target. This sounds time consuming but only takes a few seconds. Spending a few more seconds before digging will eliminate a lot of junk and mystery targets that you cannot find after digging the hole.

Remember that iron will give an incorrect ID when it is being picked up by the outer side edges of the coil. It sounds like a coin, but when going to the pinpoint mode will quickly show you that the target has been picked up by the outer portion of the coil and you can determine the real location.

HH,
Glenn
 
Yeah, I was just kind of working into that method this morning. And now you've explained why pinpointing is way off sometimes - edge of coil. Thanks.
 
I know this discussion is several days old but I wanted to throw my 2 cents worth in. I use an SE and hunt primarily in digital. I get a lot of jumping numbers too. When I do, I try to see if I can get a "good" number to repeat. If it does, I dig. If I think I'm running into two targets, I try to isolate them by really narrowing my sweep and by using Pinpoint. I've also found that by raising my coil and using small movements, I can minimize the jumping numbers. The best way to learn any machine is to dig everything that gives an initial potential until you learn the peculiarities of the machine in the area you're hunting. Coin corrosion and halo effect can also affect numbers.
 
my third time out with new se i found rosie and wheatie in same hole.i was getting such an iffy that i almost left it.was running in mode that n.h.bob suggested to run in for forty hours or more.first out of the hole was the dime.going back over the hole the penny had so much corrosion that it wopuld'nt give a good reading,but being determined,i dug more dirt out.was really amazed at the color of the ground around around that penny.have always noticed the color of ground around coins,but this was the the worst i;ve seen in 30 years of detecting.i found no rust but i'm sure there had to be some there. hh and watch those iffies.:pulltab::usaflag:::)
 
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