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New X-Terra 705 Bad Ground Question

Utuk_Xul

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Got my 705 a few days ago... and just now did some depth tests...My machine is not seeing a quarter at even 5" without IDing as -8. My ground here is very mineralized with lots of hot rocks. Does anyone think that my machine will be able to ID accurately at 6"+ if I got a DD coil? My machine is ground balancing around 10 in my back yard, but some places in the front are at a 6 to 8. I really love the machine and realize it is no fault of it's own. I've had a few detectors here and none of them have been able to see a quarter past 3". I believe there are quite a few coins in the ground here... It's an old farm house. I snagged a 1952 Rosie at 5" with my F2 only because it was covered in a big ball of foil lol. I got lucky on that one. I'm hoping that a DD on the 705 will get me down to where I can see them.

Thanks for any suggestions you guys/gals can give.
 
The soil where I live is also highly mineralized. I solved that problem with the 10.5 DD 7.5kHz coil. I have found cw bullets to 11" using that coil. Hope this helps. HH TomB
 
Thanks Tom. Makes me feel a bit better. Now I just gotta find a place that has some DD's in stock. I had a heck of a time locating a dealer that had any 705's. I guess I just have some tough ground. I can touch a magnet to the soil and it is immediately covered in tiny bits of rocks that are attracted to it.
 
If you are GB that low you may very well do better with a DD. I believe that I do. Realisticly I probably do best with the 5x10 but the 6"DD is a great coil too. I have not ran the 10.5" MF DD more than a couple hours yet and that was in a trashy yard. Others like that coil though.
 
To each his (or her) own. But here are my rules of thumb for chosing a coil....... Larger coils cover more ground with each sweep. Therefore, larger coils do not separate targets as well as smaller coils. In areas with heavy concentrations of targets (trash and/or keepers) I prefer a smaller coil. DD coils separate better than concentric coils, due to the field of detection. (blade vs conical pattern). So if I am hunting a site with multiple targets with each sweep, I opt for a small DD coil. DD coils are designed to perform better in areas with higher levels of mineralization. When I am unable to properly GB my stock 9-inch concentric at 7.5 kHz with a ground phase readout of 28 or more, I consider that to be in the area of "higher mineralization" and switch to a DD coil. Higher frequencies are best suited to identify targets with lower conductivity.(gold) And, lower frequency coils are better able to properly identify targets with higher levels of conductivity. (copper and silver) If I am hunting for small gold jewelry or gold, I'd opt for a higher frequency coil. On a wide open beach it would be one of the larger high frequency coils as they cover more sand than a smaller coil. If I am hunting for US coins, I opt for either the 7.5 or 3 kHz coils. If I am coin hunting a wide open area that is moderately mineralized, I put on the 3 kHz concentric. If it were a highly mineralized area, I'd go with one of the larger DD coils. If it is an area with multiple targets, like the local park, I use the 6-inch DD. Although I would prefer a lower frequency coil for coins, the only available small DD is the higher frequency 18.75. And I believe any tradeoff of using the higher frequency is worth it due to the ability to best separate targets. So the things to consider are the mineralization level, target concentration and type of targets you are wanting to best identify. With all that said, any of the coil frequencies will detect anything metal. Some just identify certain metals better than others. By searching this forum, you can find many posts about the benefits of using specific coils and the different audio response you might hear on different targets. But based on what you've told us so far, it sounds as if your first priority will be to get a DD coil of some size and shape. If you primarily hunt wide open areas, a larger coil may serve your needs. If you are hunting parks or yards with multiple targets per sweep, then I'd recommend the smaller 6-inch DD at 18.75 kHz. JMHO HH Randy
 
Thanks for great info, Randy. I guess I could put my stock coil on ebay and hope someone needs a 9" 7.5Khz replacement coil... or I could put my Fisher F2 up for auction to get the funds for a new coil.

I'm waffling back and forth between the 5x10 18.75khz DD and the 10" 7.5khz DD. I want maximum depth...even though the yard around the house here is loaded with iron targets. I have 5 acres of fields I can detect and the 10" DD would work well there. I was very surprised when my machine couldn't identify a quarter at the 5" mark.. prob even less. I know I would have the same results with any machine here... so I know it's not my detector. I'm very happy with it. It is very comfortable to use and I love the backlighting.
 
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