New with Elite "Nullomatic"

[Troy]

I only have a few hours on the elite, I know it takes time to learn so I have a question. I got permission to hunt a yard (built in 1870) in the middle of town and I'm thinking here is my big break I am going to find something cool! I only have a week to search before it is sold. So I go and start swinging(I know SLOWLY) using the "default dots" and the Elite is nulling like crazy. Is this because of tons of iron in the ground? Is there a setting to minimize this? I hunted for hours and came out with 5 Mem. pennies a clad dime and 2 wheats. I had a hard time locking on to signals from more than 1 direction. I hate the thought of going back with the "fish out of water" 1280X. I dig till I'd died if I had to do that. Any advise would be great.
Thanks,
Troy

 

[Art (NWOH)]

You got into a bad spot. Probably a combination of iron junk and electrical interference.

Find a spot that is clean if you can in all metal. Switch to discriminate. If it nulls, then back the sensitivity down until it quits nulling.

When you get back into the iron junk....
If it is nulling more than half the time with a slow sweep, then back the sensitivity down some more.

Running too much sensitivity in trash can cause your detector to start hitting on nails instead of nulling on them.

Electrical interference seems to "light up" iron junk and make it look worse than it is.

Too much sensitivity in trash can cause the trash to mask out good targets.

When hunting in trash, you will often get poor sounding response on good targets because of the interfering signals from the trash. You need to accept targets that sound a bit "poor" under these conditions.

HH

 

[Rick(ND)]

What Art says sound good. I would run no disc or no notch so those two knobs all the way counter clockwise so the only null will be iron. I would also run auto sensitivity and go real slow and wiggle over any positive signal to try to get the tone to climb and check these that do climb or sound good from more than one angle. The biggest thing like Art say is too much sensitivity can give you problems and auto should work OK for you. Did I mention to go slow and listen close?? as that is very important if you want to find good targets in with trash. Also I hope you have a 8 inch coil if it is trashy as it can see good targets better in trash.

Good luck and keep us posted how you do.

 

[Troy]

Thanks for the help guys. Rick, that was pretty much how I was running the Elite. However I only have the 10" tornado coil that the machine came with. Art, I like the advise very much. It gives me a procedure to "diagnose" the problem that I am having. Thanks again guys! I hope to be reporting back with a "first". Which wouldn't be much seeing that I only have a few merc's and IH pennies under my belt.
Troy

 

[Rick(ND)]

It is only normal you have a little tough time to begin with if you don't know your Sovereign, plus taking it to a site such as this makes it even tougher to get to know your Sovereign. I know I had a lot of problem to begin with and when I took it to a site that didn't have as much trash i was able to learn it better and everything clicked for me.
Now from experience many can go to a trashy area and have no problem with the nulling and finding the good targets as many are just a slight blip but the tones make me want to work it, or like it was said before massage the signal to get it better.
In your case being not a lot of time to detect this site you will have to do the best you can by going slow and pick out what you can.

Good luck and hope you can pick out many nice finds from this site.

 

[Troy]

Well I never got a chance to go back to site I was having trouble with. I did however learn something that I will be able to use in the future. I don't get much time to swing so it will likely take me a good while to become proficient with the elite. Thanks again!
Troy

 

[ikon]

i dont know if this helps but when im using a sunray 12 on my GT if im swing too fast she seem to null more. when i really slow down it seems to stop alot of the nulling. its good to carry a coin in your pocket just to keep things in check. i dont believe your missing anything. if its not there your not going to find it.
stan

 

[Rick(ND)]

Haven't heard from you for a while and hope you are getting some time to get out to find some nice goodies.
I agree the sweep speed has a lot to do with the nulling on the Sovereigns in some of the trashy site so the detector can recover from a null. I just been working a area loaded with iron and my Explorer SE has been having some problem with this area, so I took the GT and with the threshold nulling I find i can swing slow and listen close and hear the threshold trying to come back and still pick up a good target. Now if I didn't have the threshold to listen too I wouldn't know if I was going to fast and would miss the coins I am finding.

Good luck and hope you are doing well with the Sovereign

Rick

 

[ikon]

Hi Rick,
It has been awhile. Had kind of a crazy summer. Things are finaly getting back to normal. Been getting back into the groove and working the heck out of both my machines. Heading to the beach for 4 days tomorrow so i'm looking to have alot of time walking the beaches.
stan
retirement is fun

 

[jbow]

You said you only had a week and i guess it's over now. I hunt a site like that and my GT does the same thing. I run it either in auto or switch it to silent and lower the threshold so that it does not chatter. That helps in those old house sites.

J