NEW WHITES 28 FREQ DFX.

[RingProfessional]

I think if whites was to come out with a full multi frequency machine this would be fantastic and a top seller for sure. Something with a different type of target id , the vdi number system has been with us for getting close to 20 years now , maybe something completely different would kick start the flailing interest in the dfx ?. Minelab came out with a real cult idea on the explorer with the smart screen with cross hairs for target id , i would have thought whites could do some serious thinking and come out with a novel screen similar but not identical to the explorers. The minelabs are running away with it at the moment .

 

[Mikel]

Running away with what? I have "NEVER" found "ANY" target with my Explorer that my MXT could not ID equally well. In fact with the 8" Excellerator coil the MXT has a stronger audio response. I usually take both detectors along to compare target response. The Tejon I recently acquired is yet another BEAST to contend with and it has no meter. :angry:

 

[UK Brian]

Got to admit I'm fascinated how Minelab managed to brain wash so many into thinking the more frequencies the better. Two or three frequencies do offer advantages on a wet beach but like Mikel I have other machines that perform better on land without the drawbacks of multifrequency.

 

[Larry (IL)]

The DFX is already a 28 frequency machine like the Minelab. It is just that White's does not blow smoke up the customers ass. From what I understand about Minelab is it processes just the two main frequencies like the DFX. (Multi-frequency) The extra frequencies are harmonics of the main frequencies. Nowhere in the Minelab ads does it say that all 28 frequencies are processing data, only transmitting them. It is considered poor circuit design to transmit useless harmonics because it causes interference, it is called spurious radiation. Have you ever tried hunting within 10 feet of an exploder? White's does it's best to suppress the harmonics and they are still there but at a much lower level.

Advertising trickery at it's best and it works well for Minelab.

 

[Pirate John]

Larry you are correct although I believe the DFX has 16 frequencies that are transmitted. The Exploder is great on deep silver will id better than my MXT, although I can hear the same targets that the EXII can. Comparing the EXII to the DFX, I will take the DFX, great on deep silver and small gold something the EXII has trouble with.

 

[Johnnytuinals]

I am sure Whites will be putting something out soon to replace the ageing DFX....
And if they do I am sure many will be upgradeing...JT

 

[dewcon4414]

Larry you may be correct in that minelab's manual is confusing about how BBS works. The manual says "The BBS circuit automatically transmits a number of frequencies simultaneously ranging from 1.5 to 25.5 kHz. The signal received is analysed and relayed to the speaker. Through the use of so many frequencies the detector is designed to locate and accurately identify valuable taregets." Made it sound like to me ALL the frequencies are used.

 

[Larry (IL)]

That is exactly what they want you to think!!!

 

[Larry (IL)]

If they do, I will be one of the first to get one. I would be surprised if it happened this year though.

 

[Richard@BackwoodsDetectors]

I suspect White's will be coming out with something innovative in the not to distant future... As for DFX sales, 1/3 of what I sale is the DFX, 1/3 MXT's, and 1/3 the remaining offerings. Most people who buy the other 2/3's wish they could afford the DFX.. DFX is still the machine to beat.... Explorer II is a great machine but I do believe White's has the edge. (No that's Fisher) Best to all, RichardnTn

 

[RingProfessional]

The beep goes on.

 

[Johnnytuinals]

I am hanging on for a few months more,I am in no rush(I do have the money lol}
I want the detector to detect GOLD and most say that the MXT will pickup Gold better then the DFX,,,,,so I feel that whatever the upgrade will be.It will pickup Gold as good as the MXT or better I hope.JT

 

[Richard@BackwoodsDetectors]

the MXT is very close to the GMT in performance. It deserves a lot of credit as a gold machine. A lot of people are making some great finds with it... It would be nice to see that in a new high-end package before the end of the year... Time will tell...Richardntn

 

[Johnnytuinals]

Well if i was working for whites I would try to put that Gold funtion in the Replacement for the DFX.....
I know if I buy a detector now and if I want to sell it ,I know i could do that on ebay.But then again I can sell lots of things but I am a tad to lazy and know i would never get around to it lol.Jt

 

[massdigr]

Just to let those of you who don't know already. Whites bought the pattent for thr DFX from minelab. Thats why i don't understand why all the negative feedback about Minelab. The DFX is built on Minelab technology. : )

 

[massdigr]

Just to let those of you who don't know already. Whites bought the pattent for thr DFX from minelab. Thats why i don't understand why all the negative feedback about Minelab. The DFX is built on Minelab technology. : )

 

[greenmeanie]

I think VDI is a good idea. minelab now has it too on their Explorer II. If it works why fix it?

 

[Seasoned_Pro]

We all have our preferences to manufacturers and their machines. Some of us require versatility while others demands lead to specific applications. All in all, a metal detector is only as good as the operator behind it. I have walked, stooped, climbed and crawled for many hours behind both machines under scrutiny in this forum. I could give an objective review of both machines because of the hundreds of hours I have logged behind them. I put these machines through a lot of abuse. Both machines are state of the art and of the highest quality per manufacturer. I will list the machines alphabetically, so to keep things fair. The DFX is, in my opinion, a durable machine. I have a tendency to protect the Explorer. The DFX is fast, responsive and accurate. The Explorer has a slow recovery rate. A trashy area will render the Explorer useless. The Explorer is also responsive. Too responsive. I have to spend quite a bit more time jockeying the controls on the Explorer just to "see" below the majority of trash. I think the Discrimination Block of the Explorer is mis-understood for new users. Comparing the expanded discrimination ability of the Explorer to the DFX is useless. They are two different machines. I will say that the Explorer processes more information than it needs too and inevitably causes an immediate performance drag compared to the DFX. Out of the box, the Explorer is a ground missile. The DFX compliments new users to detecting and factory presets are toned down to ensure stability. However, once a user becomes comfortable with the DFX, they will have the option of full user control. The DFX can be manually ground balanced for those areas containing an abundance of man-made iron. The Explorer took a nose dive on that in the eyes of a seasoned detectorist. For all of you that are persuaded by the enticing lure of multi-frequency, remember this: only comes into effect when the ground suffers from extreme mineralization. No machine on the market operates on more than two freqs. Let me say that again. No machine on the market operates on more than two freqs. Any more than two would be unnecessary and the manufacturers know this. Its like listening to two sides of the same story. The more people you include, the more confusing the story becomes and the less likely you are to remember what happened in the first place. One could even say that the first detectors in the 30's produced multi-frequencies, if you wanted to include harmonics.

Seasoned_Pro

 

[therover]

Remember, the combination of ignorant or un-infomred people with marketing genius can make anyone believe anything.

The marketing folks want ambiguity at the maximum level.