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New to me Explorer XS !

88junior

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And I have a few questions is the settings for the XS and Explorer II pretty well the same? And if you any of you guys have a setup for a trashy park please share. My soil conditions here are medium to high mineralization so should I run my sensitivity in auto or manual. I welcome any and all help to get me up and running. Thanks Morgan
 
Well,having a name like "Morgan" should be a bunch of help right there! :detecting: Seriously,I digress...
 
As far as I know they are the same.
 
I would suggest getting Andy' book and reading it. I did and it has helped a LOT.
 
IDXMonster said:
Well,having a name like "Morgan" should be a bunch of help right there! :detecting: Seriously,I digress...

I can't help I was named after ( SILVER) American currency!! LOL
 
azdigger I have it in the mail headed my way.
 
Morgan .after you decide which settings you like ..REMEMBER You must run the XS at Slow sweep speed ..when you think your slow enough..SLOW down some more.
 
Got you Elton I know to get the deepest coins you gotta move at a snail's pace and listen for the high tones.
 
Auto sens is notorious for WAY over reacting and lowering your sensitivity too low, recommend you adjust it manually. Describe your mineralization and area of country. The nasty red stuff in the SE? The ridiculous magnetic black sand of the Pacific NW? The NE has their own brand of mineralization, 300 years of rusty nails lol.
 
Nasty red stuff in the Southeast is what I have.
 
Yeah I have hunted in that red soil, its a challenge even for an Explorer. Its going to be noisy with a fair amount of ground background noise, like traffic noise from a freeway but actual targets will sound through and higher volumes, more solid hits, and repeatable. Adjust the sensitivity to tolerable level but not noise free if you want to get any depth, ignore the noise and wait for solid hits that repeat. Those hits will seem wider as you sweep them, one of the best ways to tell a real target from a false on an Explorer, a false seems tiny as you sweep it, a target seems bigger, wider. I'd sure want to learn the Explorer in cleaner ground, learning it in red soil will take some patience to be sure. Civil war bullets are no problem even at pretty deep depths, civil war buttons are more challenging, they won't hit as solid when masked in the red soil. Watch your cursor bounce patterns, the cursor will be bouncing around, its where it bounces around that should interest you. A false will bound all over, rusty iron will bounce consistently in the rusty iron area, mini balls and buttons will bounce in the vicinity of where they hit during air tests. So you are playing a game of general vicinity, bouncing around in say a 3/4 inch square area of the screen, some sweeps bouncing outside of that but say you sweep it 6 times probably 4 of six near the area of the screen the target should hit.

One truth with the Explorer is it gives you a LOT of target information. The longer you use the machine the more information your brain will extract. Volume of the tone, shape of the tone, depth hints via tone, target size via tone. Beyond tone cursor bounce patterns. The digital display is fine for hunting gimme shallow targets, when in bad ground and/or when hunting at the depth limits of the machine then I find digital mode useless. The cursor is going to be jumping around and so the digital response will be all over the map and difficult to follow. But say you are sweeping an Indian head cent that's iffy, while the cursor may jump to some weird locations, on many sweeps the cursor will land in the general vicinity of where an Indian head cent should ID. Maybe not right on the exact location but general near there.

The Explorer tones are enough like a musical instrument that tones can have shapes, its kind of famous for what many call "round" tones. The tone sort of starts narrow as you first start to sweep over say the right edge of a coin, the tone grows wider/stronger/louder as you near the middle of the coin, then as you begin sweeping off the left edge of the coin the tone tapers off again. Its sensitive enough to tell the difference between a silver Barber dime and a silver Mercury dime, due to the Mercury dime being such a deep relief strike. Mercs sounds distinctly different from other silver dimes as you learn the machine.

Now its entirely possible to screw this all up with the wrong settings. If you set Fast ON for example its going to chop off the leading and trailing edge of the tone as you sweep. Similarly if you have your gain too high 10 for example this will boost the volume of all signals to maximum, gone are any hints at depth or size via louder vs fainter tone responses. I keep variability set to max for this reason, I use Ferrous tones to make iron sound low, I keep my gain at 7 as my goto gain, maybe 8 in good ground, maybe 6 in bad ground or due to electrical interference.
 
Have you got much time on either the Etrac or CTX3030 with the everything landing on the 12 Ferrous line?

I'm a huge bounce fan also, love the earlier Explorer series screen. I bought a CTX 3030 and find that having targets move a few pixels left or right on the 12 line is a huge step backwards for IDing targets.

Got an opinion?

Chris
 
Makes me feel better about going "Explorer" than "etrac"...haven't tried the newer ones so I'm not bashing in ANY way,just saying its a confidence boost coming from well known users.
 
Not to say that I think the CTX doesn't have possibilities.

The target trace that can show the presence of a non-ferrous target under a ferrous 90 degrees to the center web is an example. For some reason they've chosen to do this only on the screen, no corresponding audio response.

They should be able to have some easy software options that lets an user go back to the XS smart screen set up, even if the axis remain switched, and some form of audio response option corresponding to the target trace.

Then they would have a killer machine.

I don't think Minelab management realizes the reason FBS machines were so successful was that many of the early adopters did everything the opposite of what was emphasized in the user manual. There were pages and pages discussing teaching in targets and discriminating out the rest. Wonderful concept, doesn't work consistently for anything within a quarter mile of another target or over three inches deep.

The ones who made the most finds were those that opened everything up and listened to the tones and watched the bounce, then posted the results.

Could go on.
 
Yeah,the "target learn" doesn't make much sense after you've used the machine for a little while. It becomes very apparent the downfalls of the idea....wide open Ferrous works well for me for sure. I'd rather hear the whole junk signal than just part of it....
 
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