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New to me CZ-3D
- Thread starter WV62
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TheGeorgiaCanuck
New member
1. Always use the pump method for GB, recheck every time you change soil conditions. I recheck every 15-30mins anyway.
2. If the signal pinpoints off target from the high tones. It's a nail.
3. I always run in 0 discrim setting. Others find it info overload, but I'm used to the Garrett AT-Pro in zero discrim. I don't want any iron masking my targets.
4. Headphones are a must if you run volume between 1-6, so you can hear the faint deep high tones. Setting 7-10 are all the same volume.
5. Dig all medium, pulltab, foil signals. You *MIGHT* miss a ring if you don't.
6. Read the Fisher Intelligence report.
7. One way to tell the size of the object is to slowly lift your coil as your swinging. You can also use the pinpoint mode.
8. Sometimes surface coins will give you the overload signal, lift the coil and see if it goes high tone. Then pinpoint for size.
9. I usually dig if the signal is clean in 2 or more directions. Sometimes I still get nails. But if the signal is clean in 4 directions, and it pinpoints like a coin. Then it's a coin.
10. Silver coins like to hide under roots at the base of big old trees.
11. Slow down your swings, count each as 1001, 1002, 1003. The CZ-3D works best at slow to medium swing speed.
Just woke up, if I think of anything else I've discovered in 13days of using this detector I'll post later.
2. If the signal pinpoints off target from the high tones. It's a nail.
3. I always run in 0 discrim setting. Others find it info overload, but I'm used to the Garrett AT-Pro in zero discrim. I don't want any iron masking my targets.
4. Headphones are a must if you run volume between 1-6, so you can hear the faint deep high tones. Setting 7-10 are all the same volume.
5. Dig all medium, pulltab, foil signals. You *MIGHT* miss a ring if you don't.
6. Read the Fisher Intelligence report.
7. One way to tell the size of the object is to slowly lift your coil as your swinging. You can also use the pinpoint mode.
8. Sometimes surface coins will give you the overload signal, lift the coil and see if it goes high tone. Then pinpoint for size.
9. I usually dig if the signal is clean in 2 or more directions. Sometimes I still get nails. But if the signal is clean in 4 directions, and it pinpoints like a coin. Then it's a coin.
10. Silver coins like to hide under roots at the base of big old trees.
11. Slow down your swings, count each as 1001, 1002, 1003. The CZ-3D works best at slow to medium swing speed.
Just woke up, if I think of anything else I've discovered in 13days of using this detector I'll post later.
TheGeorgiaCanuck
New member
WV62 said:Loved number #10
It's true tho, I've got a tree where kids still play. it's got these huge 45deg arms where I've seen kids hanging and climbing. Under it is big roots and I've got 2 awesome signals there that I cannot get to. Impossible to dig, frustrates me to no end but it's a park and I cannot bring an axe. Not that I would, that tree is OLD, I'd hate to chop up a big root and then the tree dies. I'd never forgive myself.
Only thing I would add at this point is to not run your sensitivity too high. It will go plenty deep and with a lot less falsing in the 3-4 range. Start off with a sensitivity setting lower than higher to learn the unit and how it reacts to targets in the ground you are hunting in. You can then SLOWLY raise it (one of the main benefits of the analog CZ's is the fact that you can fine tune the sensitivity).
#3 is very important in my opinion. Although it may be audio overload at some sites, running at setting 0 in discriminate mode will eliminate you digging nails and iron that would wrap into the high tone. If you run 1-6, you will not hear the low iron tone when a target wraps, and only hear the high tone and be fooled often.
Try tone hunting and not looking at the meter. Deep silver and copper coins will give that distinct, soft, mellow high tone 'tink' in a small footprint and when you train your ear and brain to recognize that sound as opposed to the harsher, louder sounding, wider footprint of iron ( when I state foot print I mean how the target pin points. Most coins will pin point in a very narrow area) you will know you got a goodie.
If you run in enhanced mode at more modern sites with aluminum junk, a lot of those targets may/will hit as high tone. In those areas, you can either switch to normal mode, or if you know there are deeper, older coins there, only dig the deeper high tones. Running with the volume in the 1-4 range will give the shallower targets a more pronounced audio, whereas the deeper ones, the audio will be softer. The modulated audio is a great benefit in these types of areas when running in enhanced mode as you can get an idea of depth via the tone first, and then you can decide whether you want to investigate or not. If you start hitting a lot of pull tabs in the 2-3 inch range that ID with a high tone in enhanced mode, you may just want to skip those louder high tones all together and only investigate the softer volume tones if you are old coin hunting. Only caveat with that is, you may miss a shallow older coin, but that is the trade off. Knowing the site and dirt strata where you have an idea where old coins may lie, depth wise, is key.
#3 is very important in my opinion. Although it may be audio overload at some sites, running at setting 0 in discriminate mode will eliminate you digging nails and iron that would wrap into the high tone. If you run 1-6, you will not hear the low iron tone when a target wraps, and only hear the high tone and be fooled often.
Try tone hunting and not looking at the meter. Deep silver and copper coins will give that distinct, soft, mellow high tone 'tink' in a small footprint and when you train your ear and brain to recognize that sound as opposed to the harsher, louder sounding, wider footprint of iron ( when I state foot print I mean how the target pin points. Most coins will pin point in a very narrow area) you will know you got a goodie.
If you run in enhanced mode at more modern sites with aluminum junk, a lot of those targets may/will hit as high tone. In those areas, you can either switch to normal mode, or if you know there are deeper, older coins there, only dig the deeper high tones. Running with the volume in the 1-4 range will give the shallower targets a more pronounced audio, whereas the deeper ones, the audio will be softer. The modulated audio is a great benefit in these types of areas when running in enhanced mode as you can get an idea of depth via the tone first, and then you can decide whether you want to investigate or not. If you start hitting a lot of pull tabs in the 2-3 inch range that ID with a high tone in enhanced mode, you may just want to skip those louder high tones all together and only investigate the softer volume tones if you are old coin hunting. Only caveat with that is, you may miss a shallow older coin, but that is the trade off. Knowing the site and dirt strata where you have an idea where old coins may lie, depth wise, is key.
yes! but therein lies the rub! you really have to be dedicated,and PATIENT with a capital "p"
to hunt like that in a trashy modern park! actually the patience of job is required to hunt in enhanced mode that way!
however,it IS the only way to do it! only other option is to run the terrific 5" hockey puck,and mentally grid a small area and have at it!
unfortunately "most" old areas that contain old silver,are also modern "crap" piles,but think about it!..how ya gonna market a detector
like this,UNLESS ya tell people to "only" use it in enhanced mode at older pre 1950s sites?..somethin' to think about!..just sayin'
(h.h.!)
j.t.
to hunt like that in a trashy modern park! actually the patience of job is required to hunt in enhanced mode that way!
however,it IS the only way to do it! only other option is to run the terrific 5" hockey puck,and mentally grid a small area and have at it!
unfortunately "most" old areas that contain old silver,are also modern "crap" piles,but think about it!..how ya gonna market a detector
like this,UNLESS ya tell people to "only" use it in enhanced mode at older pre 1950s sites?..somethin' to think about!..just sayin'
(h.h.!)
j.t.
j.t.
I have been running my CZ3D in enhanced mode a some local spots, and checking some high tone nickel hits by switching back to normal, where they then hit as mid tone pull tab. Most if not all of those, in the 1-5 inch range, end up being pull tabs and not an older nickel.
So checking depth and having patience in areas like these is paramount. You have to do into the hunt with the mindset that you are looking for older,deeper, coins.
I agree with you in that marketing that unit for pre-1950 areas can be misleading. Once you know how to run enhanced mode in trashier areas, have patience, dig the deeper targets and know the dirt, you can dig up some older coins ( as long as the spot had them there !). Using that small coil helps a lot as well in the trashier areas.
I have been running my CZ3D in enhanced mode a some local spots, and checking some high tone nickel hits by switching back to normal, where they then hit as mid tone pull tab. Most if not all of those, in the 1-5 inch range, end up being pull tabs and not an older nickel.
So checking depth and having patience in areas like these is paramount. You have to do into the hunt with the mindset that you are looking for older,deeper, coins.
I agree with you in that marketing that unit for pre-1950 areas can be misleading. Once you know how to run enhanced mode in trashier areas, have patience, dig the deeper targets and know the dirt, you can dig up some older coins ( as long as the spot had them there !). Using that small coil helps a lot as well in the trashier areas.
i agree in principal! i have used cz's in the past,and you are right! patience is a virtue with them
in trashed areas,and the "redeeming" characteristic of the cz,(and this pertains to all models) IS the
"modulated" audio which is a "god send" on this detector.it allows you to "cross circuit" into pinpoint,
and listen for a "faint" hit that sounds "round" to give away the position of a deeper target.in my view it is WHY the cz
is STILL a "crackerjack" coin sniper.the ability to "check" depth,along with modulated audio,AND outrageous depth
is why this detector is a survivor!..just sayin'
(h.h.!)
j.t.
in trashed areas,and the "redeeming" characteristic of the cz,(and this pertains to all models) IS the
"modulated" audio which is a "god send" on this detector.it allows you to "cross circuit" into pinpoint,
and listen for a "faint" hit that sounds "round" to give away the position of a deeper target.in my view it is WHY the cz
is STILL a "crackerjack" coin sniper.the ability to "check" depth,along with modulated audio,AND outrageous depth
is why this detector is a survivor!..just sayin'
(h.h.!)
j.t.
WV62
Well-known member
TheGeorgiaCanuck said:WV62 said:Loved number #10
It's true tho, I've got a tree where kids still play. it's got these huge 45deg arms where I've seen kids hanging and climbing. Under it is big roots and I've got 2 awesome signals there that I cannot get to. Impossible to dig, frustrates me to no end but it's a park and I cannot bring an axe. Not that I would, that tree is OLD, I'd hate to chop up a big root and then the tree dies. I'd never forgive myself.
Yes I know it's true, just struck a funny bone when I read that one. One of my brothers found a nice silver quarter last year under a large tree, now he has staked claim on all large trees in our state.
Ron in WV
TheGeorgiaCanuck
New member
Theres alot of black sand on the beaches here in Vancouver, the CZ-3D GB'd fine and away I went. You just have to remember to re-GB when you go into the wet/water sand.
WV62
Well-known member
Took the CZ-3D out for a couple of hours, I decided to set disc at max, and I didn't have any problems running max sensitivity. I only found 7 coins and a small silver ring, but I am happy with the performance of the machine.
It did seem to like screw caps and I almost forgot I found an old dope smoking pipe, my wife says I must get rid of the thing.
Ron in WV
It did seem to like screw caps and I almost forgot I found an old dope smoking pipe, my wife says I must get rid of the thing.
Ron in WV