New T2 owner here..............

[robo]

Just got my hands on a T2. Since it is snowing and cold for a few months all I can do is some simple air tests and play around with the menus and all its functions. Everything is understandable but I do have a question on number of tones. I mostly coin shoot and was wondering what tones you coinshooters use and why. Will also listen to any other tips you might have for me. I am all ears!

Thanks everyone

 

[Big Boys Hobbies]

Wow, your the second guy on here talking about that! Personally,
I like to 2 tones then look at the screen after I hear a solid hit.

 

[Elton]

I like 3 H sometimes 4

In high trash areas the dp mode works very well bringing out the high Silver tones.

 

[Monte]

It really depends on the site I am hunting (tot-lot or large park or old wooded ares), the targets I anticipate finding at the site (coins Vs relics for example), and to a degree the mood I am in at the time based upon the number of targets and type of trash present.

Usually I hunt with a Disc. level of 10, maybe zero, and I like to hear the low Iron audio in 2+ and 4. Usually with the T2 I am working sites for anything and 2+ works well. When mainly after coinage at common sites the 4 Tone option suits me fine, but for most 'serious' hunting of older sites like ghost towns or mining ad logging camps, etc. 2+ gets the nod. Then there are times that I just don't feel like any variable or multi-tone choice, or even VCO audio and I just go for plain old 1 Tone. That's much how detectors used to work and it's sometimes fun just to enjoy 'plainness.'

Monte

 

[johnnybegood]

I use only 2+ tone mode..It works well for me but like Monte says its good for all the colonial wooded sites i hunt..Its also good in trashy areas..
As you see most T2 users prefer 2+ over any tone mode.

 

[pull tab mel]

I started turning the sensitivity up as high as it will stand it.....was at 93 today. Bumped it up to 99 and got some clearer signals.

 

[BAZBOSWORTH]

..Hi chaps, new forum member here , joined this evening i,m situated in the u.k about 5 miles from where the staffordshire hoard was found.. i,ve been detecting on a serius basis about 5 years using 3 top of range minelab machines and 2 xp machines,,, all i,m a detecting club member and also have permission on 4 small local farms , all of them deep pasture., being retired i,ve absolutely battered these these fields with the aformentioned machines. Well i thought i,d pulled everything there was to be pulled......UNTIL i watched Bill Lads video on the f75 ltd ed. pulling finds at extra depth, i was impressed, my local dealer was advertising a new t2 ltd at a good deal so i went for it......BEST thing i ever did , this machine is brilliant, I visited one of my farms today and went onto a small field not much more than a paddock realy , sens. 85, disc 35 tones 1. as i said battered these fields had,nt found anything last few visits, ALLchange.....targets were coming up every where , victorion pennies and ha,pennies at depths of 10 to 14 inches, a total of 50 non ferous targets in a very small area..... how had the other machines missed them..... ,i dont care realy the t2 is the one for me for me the others have gone,...... Watch this space .....

 

[Pops]

I prefer 3 tones, disc 21 and sensitivity as high as the area will allow. I primarily hunt coins and these settings work well for me.

 

[Brawler_7]

If you are using 2+,3, or 4 tones, basically if you are in multi-tone, you should keep your disc at 10 or below as you will get some masking because the iron tone sounds off on everything 40 or below. So if you are hunting in 2+ or BP, which are the best when it comes to recovery and have your disc at 21 there is a small change that you will miss some targets masked by decomposed nails and tiny pieces of iron that are discriminated out at 21 and will not give you an iron tone unless the disc is much lower, resulting in masking or silent masking.

21 aplies to 1+ tone, which is used to get rid of usual nails etc, yet still give a tone on a target that is mixed in with nails.

BAZBOSWORTH, 35 dic is much to high for your T2. You would not run your Goldi with iron threshold 17 to 20 would you? The Goldmaxx works best when you can hear the iron in conjunction with iron volume, so does the T2 in multi tone, so in order to hear all iron and avoid masking you should stick to 10 or bellow when in multi-tone.

 

[BAZBOSWORTH]

Brawler 7,.....cheers for the info regarding disc etc, i,ve only had the machine about 4 weeks so i,m still at the experimental stage only been out with it 4 times due to weather, i got those settings by looking at tomcat uk,s and gary,s detecting sites....my machine is in fact the ltd. ededition but i have,nt realy tried it in boost or cache ( hoard ) mode yet as i want to be fully conversant with it in t2 mode so to speek.....any pointers would be welcome

 

[Brawler_7]

The CL mode has very slow recovery, and is best used in all metall on a clean site. For incredible depth you can actually use the pinpoint feature as a cache hunting mode the sensitivity is adjustable in pinpoint and is incredible. Not very practical, but the capability is there, especially when that larger 15'' coil comes out. But for regular hunting almost anywhere the BP mode is the best. It's only slightly slower in recovery speed then 2+ mode, and although it would not give you more depth in the ground, meaning it will NOT detect deeper when it comes to actual inches in the ground, it really clears up the iffy tones that are just out of range and might not be heard in 2+ when other items are mixed in or the coil is not scrubbing the ground. The key benefit is the extra air gap that allows you to hunt in brush or freshly plowed soil that has not settled yet. In other words, lets say there is a hammered at 11" and the 2+ tone just nearly can't pick it up, meaning it's a perfect fringe target.The BP tone will give a good signal, and with the coil 3'' off the ground. But if that coin is at 12" the BP will mode will not pick it up even if the coil is scrubbing the ground I would recommend using the BP mode exclusively unless you are in heavy iron, then the 2+ will work better. But if it's heavy iron i usually skip the 2+ and go for monotone disc 21.

Cheers

Brawler

 

[pull tab mel]

I have been rehunting sites since I got the T2 and have been finding more targets............there was a small area that I have hunted where people parked their cars in the 1950's....went back with T2 and found a 1946 nickel and a wheatie....

 

[BAZBOSWORTH]

hanks for that Brawler, you seem to know your stuff regarding the t2,next outing i,ll be running in boost, what would your settings be for say,....ploughed and rolled, stubble,pasture and woodland cheers, BAZ.

 

[Brawler_7]

It all depends on the amount of iron and coke at your site. I would start out with the BP as your base mode on most sites, and make adjustments from there. I think Gary knows a great deal about using the T2, it's just his posts are a bit dated in that he was writing them as he was field testing the T2 shortly after they first came out, so I am sure he probably uses different settings by now, plus it's the older version not SE.

So basically you have 2 main settings.

Setting 1

For really heavy iron, whether it's ploughed and rolled, stubble,pasture or woodland it doesn't matter, go into 1 or 1+ tone (some prefer the 1 tone over 1+ because it's single pitch and very easy to hear, others prefer 1+ for more information) use discrimination of between 20-23, depending on the size and the state of decomposing iron on the site, 21 is the "magic" number for most sites, but you have to adjust you disc. to each site up or down until the iron stops giving a signal and all you can hear are clics, you don't wan't to silence it completely as it will hurt unmasking. Then crank the sensitivity up to 99, this is key, I know it sounds crazy but you get best unmasking at max sens, not 92, not 98, but 99. It's chatters but you will hear the good signals anyways.

Setting 2

BP mode, dics 10 or below depennding on EMI interference for all other sites. Sensitivity as high as you can as long as it doesn't chatter too much, no need to run it 99 in BP mode, there will be too much chatter at most sites for it to be enjoyable to hunt, but if you can get it to 99 without chatter, then you can start to drop the disc. below 10 to gain even more depth until the detector becomes unstable, then back off. You can also try dropping the sensitivity to 60-70 but also dropping the disc. bellow 10 until you hear chatter. You would get similar depth at disc around 5 and sens. of 60 to 70 as you would at disc. of 10 and sens. in the 90s, the is a difference in the way deeper targets sound, not like you will be able to hear deeper torgets better, hard to explain but basically you will be able to hear which targets are deep and which are shallow better, you have to make sure it's a stable set up though.

But don't worry about these stuff right now anyways, just keep it simple BP mode, disc 10, Sens as high as you can get without too much chatter. Once you are good at understanding whats under the coil you can experiment with other settings. If there is a lot of iron, use set up 1 (1+) None of these settings apply to sites with a lot of aluminum trash, which I simply avoid and don't really have good advice te give you.

Hope that helps, maybe there in another staffordshire hoard in your area looking to be found, so good luck!

 

[BAZBOSWORTH]

Thanks Brawler, i read your recomendations this morning, and have been out on to one of my well bashed sites for a couple of hours........pulled a viccy farthing, half of a roman brooch and a nice lizzie groat plus umpteen .22 cartridge cases,........how my minelabs had missed these i just don,t know , i,d used them in all metal, and various other settings using sef and wot coils , but not an inkling of these targets , i must of walked over them dozens of times...... amazing machine........cheers BAZ.

 

[Brawler_7]

Hi BAZ,

Could you tell me what other detectors you used on those sites?

Besides the T2SE, I also have an XP Goldmaxx and a Sovereign GT, and I have been trying to figure out which one of them to sell. I am leaning towards the Sovereign GT because of its slow recovery speed near iron, but it's better for hunting the beach or wet send and mineralized ground. While the T2 can do everything that the Goldmaxx can and go deeper, I really like the sharp tones on the Goldmaxx and it's very compact and good or travel.

cheers,

Brawler

 

[BAZBOSWORTH]

Hi brawler,......as i don,t do any beach detecting at all my personal choice for getting rid would be the soveriegn, the goldie as you say is nice and portable and compact but the T2 has the edge on it regarding depth........so it might be like keeping two horses to run the same course....... i suppose it all depends on how much beach detecting you do...............on my sites i,ve used the whites xlt (decent results), dfx(mediocre) m,lab safari and se (reasonable) But one of the best and most under rated was the xp g.max 4.7 khz...vry good machine, by slowing your sweep speed just a tad it picked up the hammies no problem and at good depths, i,d have one again well the g.max2 as a back up machine any day......, in fact i need to get a back up macine p.d.q. as DISASTER struck thi morning, going back to the site i was on yesterday slipped on a cow pat and landed full square on top of my t2,...... heard a sickening crack and low and behold broke the meter box of the hand grip, by holding the meter box onto the grip , the machine will still work and go through all its menu ,settings etc,( thank god) .but the attachment to handle mould needs replacing, my local authoriesd repair dealer has,nt got any moulds in stock, and says it sometimes takes a month for parts to come from the u.s.a.....its the first time in years i,ve been without a back up machine, just when i need one.....regards BAZ.......e bay here i come.....

 

[Brawler_7]

Sorry to hear that. And you only got it last week. It sounds like a specific part that you have to order from Teknetics, but at least the T2 still works and once the part is in it will be back full force, could have been much worse. You could pick up a Goldmaxx on Ebay for around 430 quid now since many are buying the Deus, it should be a good backup and hold it's value if you wan't to sell it later. There are several on ebay right now going for under 400.

I mostly keep my XP as an extra detector for a friend of mine who just started detecting, if that wasn't the case I would probably sell it. I told him if he finds anything of value with my XP the deal is he needs to sell it and buy his own detector so I can the ones I don't use. I never hunt on the beach as I like to look for old coins, so the Sovereign will probably have to go when spring comes. The T2 is really the only detector one needs, it's very versatile unless disaster strikes.