Hi all, i've got a new Explorer Se coming. Just ordered it today. Been using the X-terra70 ( for sale in the classifieds forum ) for a couple years and i'm ready to move up. What's the best advise you can give a guy moving up from the X-terra. The Explorer looks alittle complicated but i've been reading alot about it on this forum. I've already downloaded the emulator but haven't done much with it yet. Any help would be great. Thanks in advance. Joe.
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New Se Coming.
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Bobby Moyers
New member
Purchase Andy Sabisch book on the Explorer/Etra. I am a beginner with the SE and it was exactly what I needed to get me going. Very good book!!!
.....just for a short while...and I believe I can truly shorten your learning curve as well as cut down on the level of frustration that might pop up.
LEAVE it in the factory preset conductive sounds settings.. while hunting in the smartfind screen for at least 5 to 10 full hunts.
Don't mess with anything for some time. Those preset settings are there for a reaon...and that reason is to help new users adapt to the language the SE speaks.
IMHO the worst thing a new explorer user can do is switch anything at all...especially switch back and forth between conductive and ferrous sounds.
That will completely change what you hear and how you hear it over deep coins....and probably confuse you at this point.
Take your time...swing very slow...and do NOT worry about anybody's settings right now. There is a crucial time frame where you have to spend some quality time with your new friend...the SE...and nobody else. That time is the first few hunts.
Pay close attention to the barrage of sounds you hear...the nulling...the instability...etc...and don't get frustrated.
ONLY 2 things I would even consider changing from the stock factory learning settings which is pretty much a coin program....
1) possibly set the iron mask at -22 on the SE while continuing to hunt in smartfind screen(-6 on XS and EX2).
2) The only other thing I would consider changing would be to put the sensitivity in semi auto and set it at 26 which will GREATLY cut down on the falsing and chirping..
Both of those change suggestions do not even need to be made IMHO...but if you must tinker...then tinker with only those two things.
Everything else....I strongly recomend leaving alone for a few weeks...and leaving it in the factory preset settings.
Do NOT try too much too fast...just have FUN.
These Explorers are more than capable of hitting 8"+ deep coins right out of the box in the factory preset mode.
Once you have quite a few hours on it...and have familiarized yourself with the "language" it speaks...then you can start to piddle with settings if need be.
You might even decide at that point that you want to give ferrous sounds/AM a shot. That is a proven method as well.
For now though...trust me...leave it as I suggested for a few hunts...then when things start to click a little...you can start piddling and tinkering
Of all the things I get asked about through messages...this is the number one thing...and my advice never changes.
I think it's a big mistake for new users to get caught up in what other's settings are and they try too much too fast...then get discouraged and sell the Explorer.
Just take your time...enjoy...and get a "feel" for the explorer before taking big leaps...and the learning curve will lessen a bunch.
After a few weeks or 5 to 10 full hunts...whichever comes first....then start pickin' the brains of everyone on this forum for tips...suggestions...advice...settings to try...etc. This place is a wealth of knowledge and there a ton of talented hunters here who will help you in whatever way you need
LEAVE it in the factory preset conductive sounds settings.. while hunting in the smartfind screen for at least 5 to 10 full hunts.
Don't mess with anything for some time. Those preset settings are there for a reaon...and that reason is to help new users adapt to the language the SE speaks.
IMHO the worst thing a new explorer user can do is switch anything at all...especially switch back and forth between conductive and ferrous sounds.
That will completely change what you hear and how you hear it over deep coins....and probably confuse you at this point.
Take your time...swing very slow...and do NOT worry about anybody's settings right now. There is a crucial time frame where you have to spend some quality time with your new friend...the SE...and nobody else. That time is the first few hunts.
Pay close attention to the barrage of sounds you hear...the nulling...the instability...etc...and don't get frustrated.
ONLY 2 things I would even consider changing from the stock factory learning settings which is pretty much a coin program....
1) possibly set the iron mask at -22 on the SE while continuing to hunt in smartfind screen(-6 on XS and EX2).
2) The only other thing I would consider changing would be to put the sensitivity in semi auto and set it at 26 which will GREATLY cut down on the falsing and chirping..
Both of those change suggestions do not even need to be made IMHO...but if you must tinker...then tinker with only those two things.
Everything else....I strongly recomend leaving alone for a few weeks...and leaving it in the factory preset settings.
Do NOT try too much too fast...just have FUN.
These Explorers are more than capable of hitting 8"+ deep coins right out of the box in the factory preset mode.
Once you have quite a few hours on it...and have familiarized yourself with the "language" it speaks...then you can start to piddle with settings if need be.
You might even decide at that point that you want to give ferrous sounds/AM a shot. That is a proven method as well.
For now though...trust me...leave it as I suggested for a few hunts...then when things start to click a little...you can start piddling and tinkering
Of all the things I get asked about through messages...this is the number one thing...and my advice never changes.
I think it's a big mistake for new users to get caught up in what other's settings are and they try too much too fast...then get discouraged and sell the Explorer.
Just take your time...enjoy...and get a "feel" for the explorer before taking big leaps...and the learning curve will lessen a bunch.
After a few weeks or 5 to 10 full hunts...whichever comes first....then start pickin' the brains of everyone on this forum for tips...suggestions...advice...settings to try...etc. This place is a wealth of knowledge and there a ton of talented hunters here who will help you in whatever way you need
Eddie in Poulsbo
New member
Welcome to the SE clan Joe and take Byrce's advice and use the factory preset settings and take it slow. GL & HH.
Eddie
Eddie
[size=large]after it arrives unpack it at your new sunny location that you should find first. so you can practice bryces' advise.
just to add a little. if you have another machine to fall back on, don't fall back on it. force yourself to leave the other machine home and learn the se.
HH[/size]
just to add a little. if you have another machine to fall back on, don't fall back on it. force yourself to leave the other machine home and learn the se.
HH[/size]
brissietex
Member
Hi Bryce,
I recently put a new SEF 6x8 coil onto my Explorer II and decided to go straight back to the factory presets (tho I still use the Iron Mask tricks that I am so used to and tweak the sensitivity a bit since the SEF is rock solid). After doing mostly beach detecting with a 15" WOT for the last 3+ years, I figured I was a bit spoiled with my beach settings. Working in a trashier more varied environment dictated a change and it has worked a charm. I don't even mind the Conductivity over the Ferrous sounds anymore and I think that I've actually re-learnt how to effectively use my Explorer. Now if it would only stop raining here in Queensland for me to partake in my favourite parks.
cheers...Keith
I recently put a new SEF 6x8 coil onto my Explorer II and decided to go straight back to the factory presets (tho I still use the Iron Mask tricks that I am so used to and tweak the sensitivity a bit since the SEF is rock solid). After doing mostly beach detecting with a 15" WOT for the last 3+ years, I figured I was a bit spoiled with my beach settings. Working in a trashier more varied environment dictated a change and it has worked a charm. I don't even mind the Conductivity over the Ferrous sounds anymore and I think that I've actually re-learnt how to effectively use my Explorer. Now if it would only stop raining here in Queensland for me to partake in my favourite parks.
cheers...Keith
jgraves0000
New member
Hey Surfman, I to ordered the Explorer Saturday. I have never used a MD before but have wanted to for some time. I'm a little nervous after reading about how complex this machine can be. I live on the coast in Rhode Island and will be hunting all our great beach's. I to plan on just factory settings until the time is right. I cant wait for it to get here. HH
toprightcorner
New member
Congrats on the new Explorer!! It's an incredible machine.
I went from an Ace 250 to the Explorer and followed pretty much all of the advice that is written above.... most more than likely the same advice from the same people giving it to you now.
It really didn't take long to learn the basics. I did get Andy's book and read it while my detector was in route. I still read it from time to time because some things in the book that didn't make a whole lot of sense right off the bat, make perfect sense once I became more familiar with the machine and it's capabilities.
Good luck and enjoy the ride.
I went from an Ace 250 to the Explorer and followed pretty much all of the advice that is written above.... most more than likely the same advice from the same people giving it to you now.
It really didn't take long to learn the basics. I did get Andy's book and read it while my detector was in route. I still read it from time to time because some things in the book that didn't make a whole lot of sense right off the bat, make perfect sense once I became more familiar with the machine and it's capabilities.
Good luck and enjoy the ride.
Thanks everybody for the advice and support. Bryce, thanks again for your time. I've been reading this forum alot in the past and have been impressed with your finds. Jgraves, good luck with your new Explorer. Got mine together but haven't even put the battery in it yet. Just charged it. More snow here tommorrow. Maybe this weekend. Thanks again, and looking forward to posting my finds.
I was just notified of my new SE Pro being delivered at home!!!! I just sold my Explorer II and upgraded to the SE Pro.
I am looking forward to finding more good things this year.
Good luck on your new machine as well and as mentioned above be patient and learn the machine!!
I am looking forward to finding more good things this year.
Good luck on your new machine as well and as mentioned above be patient and learn the machine!!
Sensitivity of 26 is actually higher than the start up settings of 22 correct?
Bryce-IL said:.....just for a short while...and I believe I can truly shorten your learning curve as well as cut down on the level of frustration that might pop up.
LEAVE it in the factory preset conductive sounds settings.. while hunting in the smartfind screen for at least 5 to 10 full hunts.
Don't mess with anything for some time. Those preset settings are there for a reaon...and that reason is to help new users adapt to the language the SE speaks.
IMHO the worst thing a new explorer user can do is switch anything at all...especially switch back and forth between conductive and ferrous sounds.
That will completely change what you hear and how you hear it over deep coins....and probably confuse you at this point.
Take your time...swing very slow...and do NOT worry about anybody's settings right now. There is a crucial time frame where you have to spend some quality time with your new friend...the SE...and nobody else. That time is the first few hunts.
Pay close attention to the barrage of sounds you hear...the nulling...the instability...etc...and don't get frustrated.
ONLY 2 things I would even consider changing from the stock factory learning settings which is pretty much a coin program....
1) possibly set the iron mask at -22 on the SE while continuing to hunt in smartfind screen.
2) The only other thing I would consider changing would be to put the sensitivity in semi auto and set it at 26 which will GREATLY cut down on the falsing and chirping..
Both of those change suggestions do not even need to be made IMHO...but if you must tinker...then tinker with only those two things.
Everything else....I strongly recomend leaving alone for a few weeks...and leaving it in the factory preset settings.
Do NOT try too much too fast...just have FUN.
These Explorers are more than capable of hitting 8"+ deep coins right out of the box in the factory preset mode.
Once you have quite a few hours on it...and have familiarized yourself with the "language" it speaks...then you can start to piddle with settings if need be.
You might even decide at that point that you want to give ferrous sounds/AM a shot. That is a proven method as well.
For now though...trust me...leave it as I suggested for a few hunts...then when things start to click a little...you can start piddling and tinkering
Of all the things I get asked about through messages...this is the number one thing...and my advice never changes.
I think it's a big mistake for new users to get caught up in what other's settings are and they try too much too fast...then get discouraged and sell the Explorer.
Just take your time...enjoy...and get a "feel" for the explorer before taking big leaps...and the learning curve will lessen a bunch.
After a few weeks or 5 to 10 full hunts...whichever comes first....then start pickin' the brains of everyone on this forum for tips...suggestions...advice...settings to try...etc. This place is a wealth of knowledge and there a ton of talented hunters here who will help you in whatever way you need