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New .. Matrix X-tream Terrain ... only $100 more than the M6 :detecting:
- Thread starter Monte
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steve herschbach
New member
Hi Monte,
You got me sold. I like the sound of the Matrix X-tream Terrain. That is a lot of extra versatility for only $100.00
I've quite a few hours on the M6 so far, and for my personal use, which includes prospecting, I prefer the MXT.
But for general in-town use I have a DFX. Now, I like the DFX because I can notch out high end target like coins if I wish. But Dave Z has been pounding me hard, telling me notching is bad, bad, bad. The only way to hunt, supposedly, is in the DFX multi-tone mode with nearly all or all items set to accept. This helps alleviate masking issues caused by notching targets out for complete rejection.
Well, if I accept that argument and decide I want to hunt that way. then the M6 would be the machine I would use instead of the DFX. Just set that puppy for zero disc (might as well remove the knob) and then hunt in 7 tone mode. I personally prefer the 7 tone audio on the M6 to the multi-tone mode on the DFX.
And talk about a machine with more accessible power! Just turn on the M6 and crank up the Gain (Sensitivity?) control and you will get better performance than the DFX pre-sets.
Luckily for White's I like to notch out certain target ranges, and so I like my DFX. But the listen-to-it-all multitone crowd needs to consider whether the M6 might not be an option to consider versus the DFX. It is Power and Simplicity (M6) versus Power & Complexity (DFX). Oh yeah, that and $400!
Steve Herschbach
You got me sold. I like the sound of the Matrix X-tream Terrain. That is a lot of extra versatility for only $100.00
I've quite a few hours on the M6 so far, and for my personal use, which includes prospecting, I prefer the MXT.
But for general in-town use I have a DFX. Now, I like the DFX because I can notch out high end target like coins if I wish. But Dave Z has been pounding me hard, telling me notching is bad, bad, bad. The only way to hunt, supposedly, is in the DFX multi-tone mode with nearly all or all items set to accept. This helps alleviate masking issues caused by notching targets out for complete rejection.
Well, if I accept that argument and decide I want to hunt that way. then the M6 would be the machine I would use instead of the DFX. Just set that puppy for zero disc (might as well remove the knob) and then hunt in 7 tone mode. I personally prefer the 7 tone audio on the M6 to the multi-tone mode on the DFX.
And talk about a machine with more accessible power! Just turn on the M6 and crank up the Gain (Sensitivity?) control and you will get better performance than the DFX pre-sets.
Luckily for White's I like to notch out certain target ranges, and so I like my DFX. But the listen-to-it-all multitone crowd needs to consider whether the M6 might not be an option to consider versus the DFX. It is Power and Simplicity (M6) versus Power & Complexity (DFX). Oh yeah, that and $400!
Steve Herschbach
Ralph Bryant
New member
Ever considered going into the ad copyright (aka "hype") business ? 
Ralph
Ralph
Steve,
Let me start by saying that I like the M6. I actually prefer the Classic rod/box set-up and trigger toggle location to the MXT or XLT or DFX.
I prefer some of the functions of the MXT, however, and about the only think I DON'T like about the MXT is the noisy threshold audio.
Well, I guess I like the gain control/circuitry of the M6, too, over the MXT. But, like you, I also like it compared with the DFX and I think it will sell well against the DFX & XLT in most markets, for sure!
I am not adding one to my battery yet, and most likely won't. I'll wait-and-see what the future holds for a more versatile and quiet operating new model that might be a little more 'up-line.'
I do wish the tones were laid out differently, but I also realize that, due to the operating frequency, that might be some of the best they can do. Where I think they missed the boat is by not bringing out a unit to compete with the growing number of multi-notch models.
So, while the M6 is a good unit, there is a lot of reason for a more avaid hunter or one with more areas of interest, to consider the MXT for the piddly little $100 difference.
So, while they came close in several ways, I think I wiull stick with my X-you know what for now. Besidess, with the excellent 18-segment notch system, 4 tone audio, and the gold jewlery performance with the new 18.75 kHz coil, it's now going to be my primary gold jewlery hunting unit (location will be the key element in selecting where I use that coil).
Hope you're Matrix M6 sales this year will prove our belief in the appeal of it to the DFX, and all the best to you.
Monte
Let me start by saying that I like the M6. I actually prefer the Classic rod/box set-up and trigger toggle location to the MXT or XLT or DFX.
I prefer some of the functions of the MXT, however, and about the only think I DON'T like about the MXT is the noisy threshold audio.
Well, I guess I like the gain control/circuitry of the M6, too, over the MXT. But, like you, I also like it compared with the DFX and I think it will sell well against the DFX & XLT in most markets, for sure!
I am not adding one to my battery yet, and most likely won't. I'll wait-and-see what the future holds for a more versatile and quiet operating new model that might be a little more 'up-line.'
I do wish the tones were laid out differently, but I also realize that, due to the operating frequency, that might be some of the best they can do. Where I think they missed the boat is by not bringing out a unit to compete with the growing number of multi-notch models.
So, while the M6 is a good unit, there is a lot of reason for a more avaid hunter or one with more areas of interest, to consider the MXT for the piddly little $100 difference.
So, while they came close in several ways, I think I wiull stick with my X-you know what for now. Besidess, with the excellent 18-segment notch system, 4 tone audio, and the gold jewlery performance with the new 18.75 kHz coil, it's now going to be my primary gold jewlery hunting unit (location will be the key element in selecting where I use that coil).
Hope you're Matrix M6 sales this year will prove our belief in the appeal of it to the DFX, and all the best to you.
Monte
dirtfisher
New member
WOW 
I think I will get one too!!!
Ralph Bryant
New member
Here's a hint........ 
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Jim McCulloch
New member
.... a few hours after we met in Denver, Hawkeye and I had to drive through Eisenhower Pass during a blizzard..... glad YOU live in Denver and I live near Palm Springs.... we never have had too many icicles in PS. HH jim
HH jimYeah, they're getting a blizzard up there as we speak. It's going to be in the mid 60's here. Probably be in the low 70's down around the Arkansas (prime relic territory). Based on Palm Springs average temperatures from April through October (way too hot), you don't get any better hunting periods than I do. But, if you like to hunt in 100+ average temps, then I guess June through September is "fun", for you. Your highest recorded temperature was 123
Ralph Bryant
New member
Hey OT,
You're right, temps here in N.W. Arkansas have been in the upper 60s and 70s the past several days.....very nice for this time of year.....but dry as a bone with very little rain in the past 3 months or longer.
That terrain of yours looks prime for meteorite hunting as well....if you are into that kind of thing. Looks strange when being use to so many trees.
Ralph
You're right, temps here in N.W. Arkansas have been in the upper 60s and 70s the past several days.....very nice for this time of year.....but dry as a bone with very little rain in the past 3 months or longer.
That terrain of yours looks prime for meteorite hunting as well....if you are into that kind of thing. Looks strange when being use to so many trees.
Ralph
Butch in Colorado
New member
n/t
It's been extremely dry here as well. The high country (above 5000') has been getting record snowfall which is great for our water supply, and tourist trade.
Coming from Michigan, it took some time to get used to this semi-arid high plateau region. Now, when I go anywhere where there are trees, I feel closed in. I love the trees, it's just that I can't see anything when I'm in them. I do love the high plains, and the desert. They have a special beauty that not everyone sees.
Going to be 66 here tomorrow. I think I'll get out for a little hunting. There are several Meteorite sites out on the plains worth hunting. My hunting partner spends most of his time doing just that. Last year he got about 10,000 grams. I'm hoping to get with him, and do some myself, now that I'm retired. My main interest is the early traveler/emigrant campsites, and the hundreds of ghost towns out on the plains, with a few military sites thrown in for good measure.
OldeTymer
Coming from Michigan, it took some time to get used to this semi-arid high plateau region. Now, when I go anywhere where there are trees, I feel closed in. I love the trees, it's just that I can't see anything when I'm in them. I do love the high plains, and the desert. They have a special beauty that not everyone sees.
Going to be 66 here tomorrow. I think I'll get out for a little hunting. There are several Meteorite sites out on the plains worth hunting. My hunting partner spends most of his time doing just that. Last year he got about 10,000 grams. I'm hoping to get with him, and do some myself, now that I'm retired. My main interest is the early traveler/emigrant campsites, and the hundreds of ghost towns out on the plains, with a few military sites thrown in for good measure.
OldeTymer
Hi Butch,
I hope you've been able to take advantage of this great weather we've been having. This is a great time of year for hunting when we're having such mild conditions. If you see Janice (Finn) at the club meeting down there, tell her I said "Hi", and hope she's doing well.
OldeTymer
I hope you've been able to take advantage of this great weather we've been having. This is a great time of year for hunting when we're having such mild conditions. If you see Janice (Finn) at the club meeting down there, tell her I said "Hi", and hope she's doing well.
OldeTymer
Ralph Bryant
New member
You're right about the desert and high plains. I was raised in Southern California and spent alot of time in the desert southwest..... a beauty that some "easternerzzzz" don't appreciate. Just a bunch of rocks and dirt to some folks.
Ralph
Just a bunch of rocks and dirt to some folks.Ralph
Butch in Colorado
New member
I plan on going out this Saturday for a couple hours but I gotta be back home in time to watch my "home team" play football. I'm a Redskins fan and I gotta see if we can revenge our loss to Tampa Back in November!!
