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New Etrac and have some questions and comments...:shrug:

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Well I have been reading this forum for some time and have detected for 38 years. I just FINALLY got my Etrac and used it for about 4 hour on Sunday. I may have made the mistake of taking it to the worlds trashiest spot to begin with???? I have this old city park that has produced many IH's and Barber and Merc dimes in the past but there is a boatload of trash masking coins that remain. How do I know there are coins left you ask. Here is my story.
In the past 10 - 15 years I have detected this park many many times and the old coins have gotten few and far between. Recently some new playground equip was installed in the park and an area about 30'X50' was cleared of about 5 -6" of sod and topsoil. I was fortunate enough to be able to re-hunt this area prior to the new bed of wood chips being install and was totally amazed at what was recovered. In the short time available before the new area was cover to never be hunted again I found 3 Barber dimes, 4 IH's 3 Nickels, 3 old Wheaties, and 2 Mercs. These finds were another 3+ inches deep after the 5=6" were already removed, for a total of approx 8 - 10" deep. Now this tells me that there are several more to be found in the remainder of the park. Two thing made it hard for me to recover these remaining coins which was depth and trash masking. My thoughts are that the new Etrac should help resolve this issue. Here is what I found my first time out with the new Etac. I hunted with 2 different coils the 11 " Stock coil and a 5" SunRay coil. The problem was that the 11" still covers so much area that the trash in the ground made it very difficult to ever separate any signals. Depth was excellent, but so much trash I couldn't separate. In trying the small 5" Sunray coil it helped in separation but was unable to get the 8 - 10" depth required to locate the remaining coins. Now I know I have read about people in their trashy areas but this park is so bad w/nails can-slaw, pull tab, foil, & screw caps that with the small 5" coil on a very slow sweep will null over half to two thirds of the sweep.
Well enough rambling , if anyone has some tips for this trashy spot I would be much appreciative. I hope this is not a foolish question.
One other thing I noted was I wanted to see what numbers I got on a half dime so placed it on the ground and with the 5" coil it read a 12-35 at about 2" above the coin. I then raised it to 4" above the coin and it read a 14-35. Then finally at approx 6" it read a 17-35. My question is is this typical for the ferrous No. to increase that much on deeper coins?
Hope to get some input!!!:stars:
Bill
 
Thanks Arturo, That mean I better go give another go, as I had some sweet sounds but didn't dig a few 17-40's and 17-42's. Will do on the sensitivity also. THANKS!!!
It's not that I am lazy but the hard old ground and being in a park I didn't want to dig a bunch of unecessary holes. Even though they look good when refilled with hot weather may leave brown spots......
Bill
 
Bill, ask away. Like you, XL Pro has been numero uno, like you, Im gonna purchase an ETrac. Looks like once you get familiar with the ETrac and get you a few patterns you like, it will be a good machine, no hassles. And unlike the XL Pro you can really slow her down in Disc and loose no depth.
Hang with it man, Im pulling for ya. I will be looking forward to what you have to say.
Best,
John
 
There are too many people bragging this machine to not believe it. The XL Pro has found me some good old coins, so now I can go back to those spots and get the deeper ones :clap: Now if I can just defeat the old saying about "teaching an old dog new tricks" !!
You better get one and we'll learn together. Thanks for the encouragement...
Bill
 
Kewl, Im excited for ya. Im gonna keep my XL Pro, probably gonna sell the M6 once I get some time under my belt with the ETrac. I hunt almost exclusive in SAT all metal with the Pro because of the faster response and ability to sweep the coil slower. With the ETrac, I hope to work out a pattern for disc, and then will be able to cross check in an open mask. Most times when ever I use disc, I use just enough to knock out a small nail.
Stick with it and let me know your experience with the multi tones. I also want a smaller coil, not sure, maybe the SEF 6x8 or 5(6)??? inch excellarator, wonder which of those two get the better depth?
Got a small surger coming up pretty quick,Doc says do nothing for four weeks, so I downloaded the manual and oredered Andys book, plus Ive downloaded lot of tips and info from this forum,lol. Gonna be boring doing nothin.
Oh, one other thing, let me know how it does in the iron, Im really concerned about that.
Best,
John
 
Yeah, it's typical for the ferrous number to increase on deeper targets. I focus primarily on the conductivity number. I hear the S.E.F. coils have excellent separation. For extra depth I'd go for the 15"x12" or even the 15"x18".
 
Those large coils won't work well in the trashy site due toe the trash masking. When I'm talking trash (LOL) I mean a piece of junk every 6-8".
Thanks
Bill
 
Well I disagree on the large coil not having good separation, with the E=trac in iron mask, how slow can ya go,change angle and get separation, I just got the 6x8 SEF to try it out. In an old park in NW Ill. last week with visible trash(cut aluminum cans,pulltabs) using stock 11" I popped a 1890 seated in AU or better that litterally hundreds have passed the area due to the litter, LOW and SLOW produces in Iron Mask, I will toggle to an old park setting just to check sometimes. BTW the coin was 3" deep on its side. Keep on working with it and they will come believe me. :detecting:Hardrock (Trash density can be beat!!!!):minelab:
 
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I hit a spot this weekend that was so trashy that in an area 15X15 there was no threshold sound at all. It was all null. It was so quiet that I could here the coil slide through the grass. I was swinging very slow and overlapping my swings. Out of no where the etrac hit a coin at 7 inches. It was a wheatie. I kept at it and got another wheatie about 3 foot away. The etrac will work well even in extreme conditions. You have to go slow and grid the area from different directions to give it a chance to find the good stuff. TMAN...
 
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Bill, all the advice you've gotten so far is ok for when there's a "peak" at a coin (ie.: when target "separation" is an issue) but will not help when true masking is going on. Ie.: if you put 2 shallow pulltabs directly over the top of an 8" deep coin, no coil, no settings, and no amount of "slowness" is going to "see through" that, if you are passing shallow pulltabs. So your choice is either strip-mine the place, or find a cleaner park to hunt. Obviously "strip-mining" a junky blighted inner city park is not an option, lest you be digging several holes per every square foot, and then the park police will kick you out :)

I know of one park here in a very old part of a very old town, that was ALREADY blighted 30+ yrs. ago (a veritable carpet of tabs, foil, wino caps, hypodermic needles, etc...). So it never really got any detecting pressure from the era of good machines. A few guys I know, who had ferreted out some seateds and barbers from between the trash, became convinced that there simply MUST be a gold-mine of old coins beneath the trash :blink: So they would go out to the park at low traffic times (like at night, or super early .....and be gone by 7am) and do the following: They took flat shovels, and cut out a kitchen table sized section, to about 6" deep. They would either roll back the turf, or put it in carefully handled strip sections on a tarp, etc.... Then they would hunt the sub-ground, get the old coins, and then put the turf back in, tamp if back down, and PRESTO! You couldn't even tell they'd been there. Heck, probably less invasive than cutting plugs, eh? Naturally this would only work in nice moist turf, and would only be worth the time if old coins were very abundant and simply no other way to reach them. And of course you'd have to have b*lls of steel to get up the nerve to do this. But it worked for them. True story!
 
I have considered your option, but can't imagine the mess I might create. I just wish I could convince the city to get a scrapper, the kind they use in road construction, and remove about 5" of sod and soil and re landscape the entire park. That would be perfect as I know there are many barbers and IH's hiding in there. I was able to squeak out some good coins including a 1907 Barber half that the Sovereign GT could just barely pickup. I have gotten a nice key date 1897 O barber dime, and a1909 VDB Lincoln out of here. Before it got down to the masked coins that are left I and a couple others pulled many IH's and Barbers out.
Thanks for the response and you know exactly what I'm talking about.
Bill
 
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