New CZ3D user seeking advice

[Hdnsouth]

I returned from a Louisiana detecting trip not long ago and ran across a guy with a CZ model machine and searched around when I got home I bought a used CZ3D 1021 Tom tuned date on Tom's sticker was March of 2011 I also got the 10.5, 8" and 5" quicksilver coils with it for 650.00 not sure if that was a good deal or not being ignorant to this brand and model it's my first Fisher but I was happy with the transaction I live in the Kansas City area and weather has turned here so not sure when it'll get any swing time. Probably my main question do you need to have them retuned periodically the machine looks and performs well with what limited testing I've been able to do if so with the hit and miss hunting I'll be able to do for a while in my part of the country should it be sent back to Tom or just hang tight until I can get out and learn the machine. Also any other information anyone can provide about my newest member would be appreciated. Thanks for your time and advice

 

[Bill_S]

Sounds like you got a good deal. If the detector seems to be operating correctly I would just use it. I believe Tom said they should not need to be recalibrated.

 

[therover]

First off, if you want to check to see if you have a good working CZ, put the 8 inch coil on, set the GB ( ground balance) to 5, discrim at 0, sens at the 3-4 range, volume at 7-8 and you should get a solid repeatable high tone on a clad dime air testing in the 9-10 inch range.

When hunting, make sure you ground balance either using the bobbing method (how to do it is in the manual, and there are youtube videos as well), or the quicker pin point metod and don't run with the sensitivity too high. Stay in the 3-4 range...no more than 4 to start. Also, make sure when you gb using the bobbing method, that once completed, turn the sensitivity back down into the 3-4 range.

If you are going to hunt in discrimination mode, make sure you use 0 so you can hear/listen to ALL targets ( including iron) to start. Hunting in this mode will help with getting fooled by deep iron that may wrap into the high tone. On those targets you will hear low tones mostly, with the possibility of an occasional high tone. If you use any other discrimination level (1,2,etc.), the low tone of iron is not heard...yet if it wraps into the high tone, you will only hear the high tone and think it is a good target.

To start off, only dig high tone repeatable targets that continue to hit as high tones from different angles. Any target that hits as a low tone 50% of more of the time, leave it for now. As you get better using the machine, you may want to dig some of them up....especially the deeper sounding targets ( the audio modulation on the CZ running in volume from 1-5 is a cool thing to help tell shallower targets from deeper ones). Some deep sounding low/high hits can be deep silver, so if you are hunting places where older silver coins can be lurking deep, it may benefit to dig those low tone/high tone bounces.

Experiment with the pin point button....sizing a target using that VCO pin point button via detuning is an art form and once you master that, you will learn the difference between round type targets and bigger, elongated ones.

Use the 8 inch coil to start....then the smaller 5 inch. The bigger 10.5 is good for open areas and beaches.

In my opinion the 8 inch coil on a CZ is the optimal coil.

Hope this helps.

 

[Hdnsouth]

Thank you I've read the manual and the article on Tom's site and watched everything I could find on youtube my main machine at present is a V3I and have amassed quite a collection over the last thirty years of detecting my favorite's at present are White's and Tesoro I've been through several Garrett's that's what I started and stayed with for years last one being AT Pro also tried Teknetics for some reason I've never owned a Fisher and have three friends that use them all in the F series I know the first place it will see action an old rarely used park about 85 miles north of me my last visit there I found a 1913 Barber dime at about 4 inches and trash seemed to diminish not far from the band stand area so I don't believe it's been hunted to hard and I have a few older homes I've got permission for and several abandoned home sites in the woods so I'll have plenty of classrooms to learn in. Thanks again and if you think of anything else however trivial it may seem to you it may be what clicks while I'm learning a new language. I am very optimistic and can't wait to get started.

 

[Dan-Pa.]

Google Mike's CZ page as its a wealth of info for CZ users....
PS: therover gives some good info in the above post.....

 

[uselesspulltab]

3D is a killer machine, mines tom tuned to 13.5 inches. and let me tell you i dug up a nail the other day with a coin under it at about 12 inches was probably the craziest dig ive done in a while.

 

[Hdnsouth]

Thank you first time I've heard anyone other than Tom searched everything I could find and Tom's the only name that ever comes up can't wait to try it out but won't have a choice Mid West is in the deep freeze now wish we had a little more snow on the ground doesn't seem to stay frozen as long. Thank you and everything helps as I know I'll be learning a new machine and it's language

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[pasttom]

Mike's CZ page is a bible of CZ info, but it is a bit long in the tooth so to speak. None the less, it is old gold and super good timeless info on CZs. I have heard of some who download the entire contents in case it goes down or to print out. Its that good. IMHO and many others!